It's probably too late, UK will soon be a totalitarian puppet.

335d · May 4, 2021

And this is the same guy who’s previous “facts” were shown to be false.

More people are dying than usual at the moment - Full Fact

Dr John Lee claimed on talkRADIO that the number of deaths is below the long-term average, but this isn’t true.

fullfact.org

and the lady in your opening post has been branded a conspiracist since 2014.

Naomi Wolf - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Its easy for people to say the government were too cautious when the figures were better than the models. Surely this is a positive.

Charlie Gill · May 4, 2021

essex man said:
Yep, that is the title for those who disagree.

No, it's a name given to people who come up with crackpot theories. A bit like the claim that it normally takes 6-12 months for 2 countries to choose the same colours of red, for danger, and green for safe, in a public information campaign. She's another fruitcake. What about the cash claim? Have you seen any report claiming the government were advising shops only to accept cash?

Ashtree · May 4, 2021

Going back to the title of the thread, “totalitarian and puppet”!
Not far off I venture to say. Carrie is the totalitarian and Boris the puppet....

essex man · May 4, 2021

Charlie Gill said:
No, it's a name given to people who come up with crackpot theories. A bit like the claim that it normally takes 6-12 months for 2 countries to choose the same colours of red, for danger, and green for safe, in a public information campaign. She's another fruitcake. What about the cash claim? Have you seen any report claiming the government were advising shops only to accept cash?

Think it's prob both tbf

RobJC · May 4, 2021

I'd argue 'conspiracy theorist' is a term used to slander someone with whom you don't agree, and if it's used against someone opposing the government narrative, given the lies they have told over the last year probably worth at least listening to.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1388841452340273153

Snowden, Assange, the guys who exposed Watergate, etc. any investigative journalist worth their salt, all could be labelled so.

Snowden: “The Worst Conspiracies Are In Plain Sight”
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-4th-industrial-revolution
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulation-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/digital-identity
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/agenda-2030-delivering-the-global-goals
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/financing-the-2030-agenda-through-covid-19-and-beyond

Old McDonald · May 4, 2021

RobJC said:
We are a broken and divided populace,

RobJC said:
We have surrendered our freedoms and individual liberty

If you think it is that bad then you simply must move to another country where you will feel happier. There is no alternative. You only have the one life. Do not claim you cannot. It is easy. I am retiring in a couple of weeks and moving back to the UK by choice. Over the last 50 years my wife and I have lived on our own farms in England, Australia, Scotland and Portugal. Anybody can do it, they simply need to pack up and move.

essex man · May 4, 2021

RobJC said:
I'd argue 'conspiracy theorist' is a term used to slander someone with whom you don't agree, and if it's used against someone opposing the government narrative, given the lies they have told over the last year probably worth at least listening to.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1388841452340273153

Snowden, Assange, the guys who exposed Watergate, etc. any investigative journalist worth their salt, all could be labelled so.

Snowden: “The Worst Conspiracies Are In Plain Sight”
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-4th-industrial-revolution
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulation-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/digital-identity
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/agenda-2030-delivering-the-global-goals
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/financing-the-2030-agenda-through-covid-19-and-beyond

Yes, agree, you have probably been called one, I certainly have.
It's used as a lazy insult against those who don't go along with the herd stupidity.

RobJC · May 4, 2021

essex man said:
Yes, agree, you have probably been called one, I certainly have.
It's used as a lazy insult against those who don't go along with the herd stupidity.

It's actually a badge of honour, meaning critical/questioning. If you only watched mainstream news you're missing the whole picture.

But a lot of it is just staring you in the face, like the links I just posted to the UK government website "Fourth Industrial Revolution", "Digital Identity", "Agenda 2030", "Net Zero", it's conspiracy fact. The media don't seem to make us aware of it.

Matt Hancock 16 October 2017:
"And I’m delighted to speak alongside so many impressive colleagues who really understand this, and alongside Professor Klaus Schwab who literally ‘wrote the book’ on the 4th Industrial Revolution. Your work, bringing together as you do all the best minds on the planet, has informed what we are doing, and I’m delighted to work with you.

Now, in the fourth revolution, we are determined to use our strengths to play a leading part. By its nature the fourth industrial revolution is more collaborative than the first. And we will play our part."

https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great-Reset-Klaus-Schwab/dp/2940631123/

RobJC · May 4, 2021

Old McDonald said:
If you think it is that bad then you simply must move to another country where you will feel happier. There is no alternative. You only have the one life. Do not claim you cannot. It is easy. I am retiring in a couple of weeks and moving back to the UK by choice. Over the last 50 years my wife and I have lived on our own farms in England, Australia, Scotland and Portugal. Anybody can do it, they simply need to pack up and move.

So anytime someone does not agree with the actions of their government they should just leave the country?

Don't agree with Brexit? Leave the country.
Don't agree with nuclear/coal/solar? Leave the country.
Don't agree with net-zero? Leave the country.
Don't agree cattle are destroying the planet? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to associate? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to move around your own nation? Leave the country.
Don't agree with whatever the government dictates? Leave the country.

Mr Mackay · May 4, 2021

RobJC said:
So anytime someone does not agree with the actions of their government they should just leave the country?

Don't agree with Brexit? Leave the country.
Don't agree with nuclear/coal/solar? Leave the country.
Don't agree with net-zero? Leave the country.
Don't agree cattle are destroying the planet? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to associate? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to move around your own nation? Leave the country.
Don't agree with whatever the government dictates? Leave the country.

You wont be voting Tory then ?

essex man · May 4, 2021

RobJC said:
So anytime someone does not agree with the actions of their government they should just leave the country?

Don't agree with Brexit? Leave the country.
Don't agree with nuclear/coal/solar? Leave the country.
Don't agree with net-zero? Leave the country.
Don't agree cattle are destroying the planet? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to associate? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to move around your own nation? Leave the country.
Don't agree with whatever the government dictates? Leave the country.

Covid overreaction is an international disease with no cure or vaccine, so you have nowhere to go in any case.

Mr Mackay · May 4, 2021

essex man said:
Covid overreaction is an international disease with no cure or vaccine, so you have nowhere to go in any case.

Yep, they all are doing the similar sort of thing ,so we are stuck with you it seems

David. · May 4, 2021

335d said:
And this is the same guy who’s previous “facts” were shown to be false.

More people are dying than usual at the moment - Full Fact

Dr John Lee claimed on talkRADIO that the number of deaths is below the long-term average, but this isn’t true.

fullfact.org

and the lady in your opening post has been branded a conspiracist since 2014.

Naomi Wolf - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Its easy for people to say the government were too cautious when the figures were better than the models. Surely this is a positive.

Good heavens, her Wiki page indicates that she has certainly been busy..

essex man · May 4, 2021

Mr Mackay said:
You wont be voting Tory then ?

Fortunately the people of Hartlepool have someone to vote for if they don't agree with covid policy

Freedom Alliance candidate at Hartlepool by-election explains why he opposes 'catastrophic' lockdowns

The Freedom Alliance candidate in the Hartlepool Parliamentary by-election has hit out at the Government’s handling of the Covid-19 pandemic and said a vote for him will give people in the town a voice.

www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk

Although given that the fake war is massively popular, he'll probably lose his deposit

le bon paysan · May 4, 2021

essex man said:
Fortunately the people of Hartlepool have someone to vote for if they don't agree with covid policy

Freedom Alliance candidate at Hartlepool by-election explains why he opposes 'catastrophic' lockdowns

The Freedom Alliance candidate in the Hartlepool Parliamentary by-election has hit out at the Government’s handling of the Covid-19 pandemic and said a vote for him will give people in the town a voice.

www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk

Although given that the fake war is massively popular, he'll probably lose his deposit

Nadine Dorrie's...
BorisJohnson has delivered Brexit tradedeals and jobs for Harlepool along with a Freeport and 180,000 well paid jobs. Conservatives deliver, we get stuff done
...
Eehhh , The adult working population of Hartlepool is 57,500

le bon paysan · May 4, 2021

Interview with Hartlepool voter.
"I will be voting Conservative, we need them to protect us from the EU"
Interviewer: "But the UK has left the EU, it's no longer a member"
HV;. "Yeah, but they're are trying to force us to rejoin."

essex man · May 4, 2021

le bon paysan said:
Interview with Hartlepool voter.
"I will be voting Conservative, we need them to protect us from the EU"
Interviewer: "But the UK has left the EU, it's no longer a member"
HV;. "Yeah, but they're are trying to force us to rejoin."

Oh, you gotta think they'll be wetting themselves over that little vignette at Conservative central office

le bon paysan · May 4, 2021

Nadine Dorries has announced that Boris Johnson has created 54,000,000,000,000 jobs in Britain since last Thursday. Asked to comment on the numbers, Diane Abbott said, "wibble"

Raider112 · May 4, 2021

RobJC said:
So anytime someone does not agree with the actions of their government they should just leave the country?

Don't agree with Brexit? Leave the country.
Don't agree with nuclear/coal/solar? Leave the country.
Don't agree with net-zero? Leave the country.
Don't agree cattle are destroying the planet? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to associate? Leave the country.
Don't agree with removal of freedom to move around your own nation? Leave the country.
Don't agree with whatever the government dictates? Leave the country.

You saying cattle are destroying the planet?

RobJC · May 4, 2021

Raider112 said:
You saying cattle are destroying the planet?

No, that is the government climate change net zero narrative. I was effectively told that if I disagree with what the government does or says or proposes, that I should leave the country. Those are points used to ridicule the blinkered, and no doubt hypocritical suggestion.

It's probably too late, UK will soon be a totalitarian puppet.

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