same silver 100.6 hydraulic problems any ideas ?

Same man · Mar 21, 2021

Donnie said:
Many thanks for that. Just started taking it apart.

Hi Donnie let me know how you get on, if you hit any problems and need some help I will try to help good luck

Silver90 · May 7, 2021

Donnie said:
Many thanks for that. Just started taking it apart.

How did it go. I need to do same job. Pto wont switch off tho i can stop it by hand

box · May 7, 2021

Silver90 said:
How did it go. I need to do same job. Pto wont switch off tho i can stop it by hand

Out of curiosity, what machines have you been running on the PTO?

Silver90 · May 12, 2021

box said:
Out of curiosity, what machines have you been running on the PTO?

I bought it non runner. When i got it going had transmission problems figured that out now the light is flashing in centre of hydrive unit and pto wont shut off

morton · May 23, 2021

got same 100-6 1995 wont go into reverse## electric shuttle red light console flashes 5 times the 3 any ideas as to whats wrong

box · May 23, 2021

Here's a list of fault codes that I've kept on hand, just in case (as copied from tractorbynet). Not sure if these are ART fault codes or visual faults displayed on the shuttle indicator panel...I imagine they're the same.

Jump underneath and check the connectors on the solenoids on the RH side of the transmission.

LIST OF ALARMS
CODES MESSAGE on the TESTER DESCRIPTION
11 "EvL State No OK" Failure of the low range Elecro-valve
12 "EvL ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the low range Electro-valve
13 "EvL Open Circuit" Disconnected low range Electro-valve
14 "Sens. RPM Open" Disconnected engine speed sensor
15 "Sns.Tmp Oil Open" Disconnected oil temperature sensor "Sns.Tmp Oil S.C." Short-Circuit oil temperature sensor
16 "Direct.Lev. Open" Disconnected direction commands on the armrest "Direct.Lev. S.C." Short-Circuited direction commands on the armrest "Direct.Lev. N. V." Disconnected direction commands on the armrest
21 "EvM State No OK" Failure of the medium range Elecro-valve
22 "EvM ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the medium range Electro-valve
23 "EvM Open Circuit" Disconnected medium range Electro-valve
24 "Sens.Wheel Open" Disconnected speed sensor
25 "Display Fault" Disconnected or broken led bar. This message is only dysplayed by the tester
26 "SteeringN/C Open" Consent/neutral command signal disconnected "SteeringN/C S.C." Consent/neutral command signal short-circuited
31 "EvH State No OK" Failure of the high range Elecro-valve
32 "EvH ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the high range Electro-valve
33 "EvH Open Circuit" Disconnected high range Electro-valve
34 "Sens. Revrs Open" Disconnected inverter speed sensor
35 "Pos. Pedal open" Disconnected clutch pedal sensor "Pos.Ped.S.C./Open" Disconnected or short-circuited clutch pedal sensor "Pos. Pedal N.V." Broken clutch pedal sensor
36 "SteeringF/B Open" Direction command signal disconnected "SteeringF/B S.C." Direction command signal short-circuited "SteeringF/B N.V." Broken direction command button
41 "HML+ButtonPushed" Damaged HML increase button
42 "HML-ButtonPushed" Damaged HML increase button
43 "Missed Power Inf" Absence of engine power signal
44 "EvP State No OK" Failure of the proportional Electro-valve
45 "Pos.Ped. “B” Open" Disconnected clutch pedal sensor
46 "ShortCirc.Buzzer" Short-Circuited connection to the beeper
51 "EvD State No OK" Failure of the directional Electro-valve
52 "EvD ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the directional Electro-valve
53 "EvD Open Circuit" Disconnected directional Electro-valve
54 EvP ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the proportional Electro-valve
55 "HMLrelay St.N.V." Internal failure to the ECU (PWM or HML relay) "S.C. HML Power" "REVrelay St.N.V." "S.C. REV Power" "Polarizz.Com.REV" " Alim. Amplif. opr"
"ClutchPedalSens"
56 "EvP Open Circuit" Disconnected proportional Electro-valve
61 "ServicePrxMissed" Loss of main hydraulic service pressure. Failure in the hydrau
62 "PressureProport" Low pressure after the proportional electro-valve. Sen proportional Electro-valve failure
63 "E2PROM Fault" Replace the E2PROM
64 "Configurat.Error" Program configuration error. Check the setting of the Group Electro-valves
71 "Sens.Revrs C.C." Short-Circuited inverter speed sensor
72 "Sens.RPM C.C." Short-Circuited engine speed sensor
73 "Slip Clt. Revrs" High slippage of the inverter clutch
74 "Miss PrssProprt" Low pressure after the proportional Electro-valve. Sen proportional Electro-valve failure
75 "S.C. HML Group" HML Group Short-Circuited.Check in the wiring
76 "S.C. REV Group" Short-Circuited inverter Group. Check the wiring
VIII

I've purchased two workshop manuals for my Silver, neither of which cover Agroshift or Hydrive.

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

box said:
Here's a list of fault codes that I've kept on hand, just in case (as copied from tractorbynet). Not sure if these are ART fault codes or visual faults displayed on the shuttle indicator panel...I imagine they're the same.

Jump underneath and check the connectors on the solenoids on the RH side of the transmission.

LIST OF ALARMS
CODES MESSAGE on the TESTER DESCRIPTION
11 "EvL State No OK" Failure of the low range Elecro-valve
12 "EvL ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the low range Electro-valve
13 "EvL Open Circuit" Disconnected low range Electro-valve
14 "Sens. RPM Open" Disconnected engine speed sensor
15 "Sns.Tmp Oil Open" Disconnected oil temperature sensor "Sns.Tmp Oil S.C." Short-Circuit oil temperature sensor
16 "Direct.Lev. Open" Disconnected direction commands on the armrest "Direct.Lev. S.C." Short-Circuited direction commands on the armrest "Direct.Lev. N. V." Disconnected direction commands on the armrest
21 "EvM State No OK" Failure of the medium range Elecro-valve
22 "EvM ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the medium range Electro-valve
23 "EvM Open Circuit" Disconnected medium range Electro-valve
24 "Sens.Wheel Open" Disconnected speed sensor
25 "Display Fault" Disconnected or broken led bar. This message is only dysplayed by the tester
26 "SteeringN/C Open" Consent/neutral command signal disconnected "SteeringN/C S.C." Consent/neutral command signal short-circuited
31 "EvH State No OK" Failure of the high range Elecro-valve
32 "EvH ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the high range Electro-valve
33 "EvH Open Circuit" Disconnected high range Electro-valve
34 "Sens. Revrs Open" Disconnected inverter speed sensor
35 "Pos. Pedal open" Disconnected clutch pedal sensor "Pos.Ped.S.C./Open" Disconnected or short-circuited clutch pedal sensor "Pos. Pedal N.V." Broken clutch pedal sensor
36 "SteeringF/B Open" Direction command signal disconnected "SteeringF/B S.C." Direction command signal short-circuited "SteeringF/B N.V." Broken direction command button
41 "HML+ButtonPushed" Damaged HML increase button
42 "HML-ButtonPushed" Damaged HML increase button
43 "Missed Power Inf" Absence of engine power signal
44 "EvP State No OK" Failure of the proportional Electro-valve
45 "Pos.Ped. “B” Open" Disconnected clutch pedal sensor
46 "ShortCirc.Buzzer" Short-Circuited connection to the beeper
51 "EvD State No OK" Failure of the directional Electro-valve
52 "EvD ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the directional Electro-valve
53 "EvD Open Circuit" Disconnected directional Electro-valve
54 EvP ShortCircuit" Short-Circuit of the proportional Electro-valve
55 "HMLrelay St.N.V." Internal failure to the ECU (PWM or HML relay) "S.C. HML Power" "REVrelay St.N.V." "S.C. REV Power" "Polarizz.Com.REV" " Alim. Amplif. opr"
"ClutchPedalSens"
56 "EvP Open Circuit" Disconnected proportional Electro-valve
61 "ServicePrxMissed" Loss of main hydraulic service pressure. Failure in the hydrau
62 "PressureProport" Low pressure after the proportional electro-valve. Sen proportional Electro-valve failure
63 "E2PROM Fault" Replace the E2PROM
64 "Configurat.Error" Program configuration error. Check the setting of the Group Electro-valves
71 "Sens.Revrs C.C." Short-Circuited inverter speed sensor
72 "Sens.RPM C.C." Short-Circuited engine speed sensor
73 "Slip Clt. Revrs" High slippage of the inverter clutch
74 "Miss PrssProprt" Low pressure after the proportional Electro-valve. Sen proportional Electro-valve failure
75 "S.C. HML Group" HML Group Short-Circuited.Check in the wiring
76 "S.C. REV Group" Short-Circuited inverter Group. Check the wiring
VIII

I've purchased two workshop manuals for my Silver, neither of which cover Agroshift or Hydrive.

Now it wont move at all. All lights are lit on hydrive direction display. And when i press clutch the reverse direction light goes out. Warning light on display blinks slow 3 times then 5 times a little faster. The 4 wheel drive light stays on on the dash diagram. Regardless i. 44wheel drive switch is enguaged or not

Mur Huwcun · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
Now it wont move at all. All lights are lit on hydrive direction display. And when i press clutch the reverse direction light goes out. Warning light on display blinks slow 3 times then 5 times a little faster. The 4 wheel drive light stays on on the dash diagram. Regardless i. 44wheel drive switch is enguaged or not

Error 35 I’m sure was clutch pedal switch. Have seen the potentiometer bolts become loose. Whatever it is will beed ART to check and re set any how.
Which shuttle have you got? Paddle type or the silly switch

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

It has orange paddle type thing on steering colum with black button in centre. When taken apart it has 3 buttons attached to a PCB

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
It has orange paddle type thing on steering colum with black button in centre. When taken apart it has 3 buttons attached to a PCB

Problem is i am in the USA and there are no dealers anywhere. Recently a place became deutz dealer but they still dont have a dealer laptop or scan tool

Mur Huwcun · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
It has orange paddle type thing on steering colum with black button in centre. When taken apart it has 3 buttons attached to a PCB

First generation then, not the best unfortunately!! Have a look at the clutch potentiometer and the bottom contact switch first if it’s a 35 error. Then you’ll either need diagnostics or could pressure test the low pressure circuit to see if you have 18 bar, you mentioned something about 4wd light

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

Ok. Whats voltage ment to be input and output of potentiometer. I have 4.9v going in and 1.6v out with clutch up. And 3.2volts on the output clutch pressed to floor. Where is the test port.

Mur Huwcun · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
Ok. Whats voltage ment to be input and output of potentiometer. I have 4.9v going in and 1.6v out with clutch up. And 3.2volts on the output clutch pressed to floor. Where is the test port.

I don’t remember voltage wise but it won’t be a constant 12v as it controls a PWM valve.

test ports for the shuttle are behind front of diesel tank or behind cab mounting other side. Model depending you can test for 18bar on the solenoid block r/h side if there’s a nipple there or otherwise you’ll need to T in unfortunately. It will be the feed pipe from steering return to the block, bottom one I kind of remember

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

Mur Huwcun said:
I don’t remember voltage wise but it won’t be a constant 12v as it controls a PWM valve.

test ports for the shuttle are behind front of diesel tank or behind cab mounting other side. Model depending you can test for 18bar on the solenoid block r/h side if there’s a nipple there or otherwise you’ll need to T in unfortunately. It will be the feed pipe from steering return to the block, bottom one I kind of remember

Thanks alot for your help. As far as hydraulics goes lift arms and spool valves all seem to work fine. I was hauling gravel. And it just quit moving when i was backing up. I did notice bout a week ago same thing happened where all the lights came on on the direction panel. I pressed the pto switch and 4wd of and on again and everything started working again. Altbo the light in centre of direction meter was flashing

Mur Huwcun · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
Thanks alot for your help. As far as hydraulics goes lift arms and spool valves all seem to work fine. I was hauling gravel. And it just quit moving when i was backing up. I did notice bout a week ago same thing happened where all the lights came on on the direction panel. I pressed the pto switch and 4wd of and on again and everything started working again. Altbo the light in centre of direction meter was flashing

Low pressure circuit for the drive, splitters, pto, 4wd and diff lock work off the steering pump return and operate at around 18-20 bar. Pretty sure you have an electrical issue around clutch switch as opposed to a leak or pressure fault

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

Mur Huwcun said:
Low pressure circuit for the drive, splitters, pto, 4wd and diff lock work off the steering pump return and operate at around 18-20 bar. Pretty sure you have an electrical issue around clutch switch as opposed to a leak or pressure fault

Im gonna gopull tank off and check the wires on side of gearbox. I aso found a wire spliced into wire harness which runs directly to ground side of battery if i disconnect it tractor will not start. Assuming a sensor or switch is grounded out somewhere. On the bottom of the gear box there is adrain plug. Does this have a separet fill point from the rear end its on bottom of gearbox below solenoids for clutch

box · Jul 8, 2021

Put up a video of the flashing fault code so we can see if it's 35 or 53.

You shouldn't have to pull the tank right off, just unbolt it and swing it out of the way on the hinge.

Mur Huwcun · Jul 8, 2021

Silver90 said:
Im gonna gopull tank off and check the wires on side of gearbox. I aso found a wire spliced into wire harness which runs directly to ground side of battery if i disconnect it tractor will not start. Assuming a sensor or switch is grounded out somewhere. On the bottom of the gear box there is adrain plug. Does this have a separet fill point from the rear end its on bottom of gearbox below solenoids for clutch

No, all the same oil just a few sumps to empty when doing an oil change to get it all out. You can see the forward and reverse solenoids behind the tank by the cab mountings, splitter solenoids are underneath behind tank where handbrake cable is connected. Try wiggling wires first, good point about the 53 error, just seen the list of codes above

Silver90 · Jul 8, 2021

box said:
Put up a video of the flashing fault code so we can see if it's 35 or 53.

You shouldn't have to pull the tank right off, just unbolt it and swing it out of the way on the hinge.
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box said:

Put up a video of the flashing fault code so we can see if it's 35 or 53.

You shouldn't have to pull the tank right off, just unbolt it and swing it out of the way on the hinge.

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So i just moved tank and checked wires now when i turn on key nothing is lit and light flashes 3 times then 6. When i press clutch centre light and revers direction light comes on. Video is slow to upload for some reason

Silver90 · Jul 9, 2021

box said:
Put up a video of the flashing fault code so we can see if it's 35 or 53.

You shouldn't have to pull the tank right off, just unbolt it and swing it out of the way on the hinge.

Now its flashing 3 and 6

same silver 100.6 hydraulic problems any ideas ?

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