Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Plus a few of the local Hogg producers have walked over the last 2/3 years. Either too Drayton, Melton, Skipton or Bentham.
Can’t stand Drayton you get there 5-6am and the staff are all moaping round like they hate there lives and wished they’d picked another career ignoring you until they’ve run out of there Mates or regular sellers too unload then they’ll come too you if they really have too... then they always weigh 2kg lighter than they did 2 hours ago... then they don’t pay you for 3 weeks 🤦‍♂️ Shrewsbury or bridgenorth are the 2 Markets I’m going too try this year I think too mix things up a bit
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Can’t stand Drayton you get there 5-6am and the staff are all moaping round like they hate there lives and wished they’d picked another career ignoring you until they’ve run out of there Mates or regular sellers too unload then they’ll come too you if they really have too... then they always weigh 2kg lighter than they did 2 hours ago... then they don’t pay you for 3 weeks 🤦‍♂️ Shrewsbury or bridgenorth are the 2 Markets I’m going too try this year I think too mix things up a bit
I keep hearing good things of Bridgenorth, make sure you let us know how you go on! 😉

never sold in Drayton myself. I have issues with having too get up at 4am too load fat lambs! 😁
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
On the wool price...

The wool board have announced that they are kindly not charging any haulage costs to producers for the 2021 crop....

No word if they will either pay anything for the 2020 crop and a advance for the 2021 crop....

And its getting rather late in the day to announce what they are going to do as some are already shearing and no doubt as soon as the weather improves the shearers will be flat out everywhere!

@Frank-the-Wool any inside info?

Oh i did hear that the wool board were moaning that their handling costs per fleece had gone up for the 2020 crop as many farmers did not send in their wool !!......

I would agree that it is late in the day to make announcements and I am told it will be this week.
I am also reliably informed that everyone who sent wool in will receive some payment, albeit not very much.

Before anyone dismisses the organisation British Wool (BW now) you have to consider the alternatives and understand that it is probably the only commodity that farmers sell at a true world price.
BW has struggled with a 1950's scheme that is difficult to adapt to the changes that have occurred in both the wool and sheep industry. Significant changes will have to be made and to be fair to the present very small staff left at Head Office they are and have done their best in the extreme circumstances of the last year where demand and price of wool fell off a cliff.

Firstly the nearest comparison for price is NZ and we are selling wool for more than they are on a like for like basis. NZ is caught up in the issues of containers, getting them and the rising price of shipping, they are more reliant on Asia than we are for processing and manufacture.

Secondly BW has sold more wool in the last 12 months than it has for many years, admittedly at a low price. When C19 struck it had some 11 million kgs of 2019 wool left to sell, it cleared all of that plus it will be the end of this selling season in July have cleared all of 2020 wool.

We are fortunate in the UK to still have two Scouring plants that require volume to keep going as well as a carpet manufacturing industry. These are still in business and ready to produce a high quality product that will be required for the leisure industry as it restarts around the world.

On the issue of farmers not sending in their wool last season, I am also to blame for this having only sent in a relatively small amount last year and still sitting on over 20 tons. This has been a blow to BW as they had an infrastructure for around 30 million kg but only received around 22 mkg and the fixed costs have significantly increased on a per kg basis. They have or are in the process of selling off at least 3 depots and have reduced staff. Unfortunately not many could be furloughed and you do not want to make graders redundant as they are difficult to replace and take up to five years to train.

The payments made to farmers for last seasons wool are partly funded by a "Reserve Fund" which was initiated in the last year of the Guaranteed payment 1993. This was around £10 million and could only be used with government permission. I believe this will all be used up to pay producers and it should be remembered that a large amount of low quality wool will not have covered the costs of grading, packing, testing and selling. The better wools which have achieved prices above the costs of handling will not have subsidised the others. However prices will need to be seen to increase and costs greatly reduced to get more money back to producers.

I am sending in last years clip next week and would hope that BW can bring in significant changes for what is a unique and essential business that handles a world beating, environmentally friendly product.
 
I would agree that it is late in the day to make announcements and I am told it will be this week.
I am also reliably informed that everyone who sent wool in will receive some payment, albeit not very much.

Before anyone dismisses the organisation British Wool (BW now) you have to consider the alternatives and understand that it is probably the only commodity that farmers sell at a true world price.
BW has struggled with a 1950's scheme that is difficult to adapt to the changes that have occurred in both the wool and sheep industry. Significant changes will have to be made and to be fair to the present very small staff left at Head Office they are and have done their best in the extreme circumstances of the last year where demand and price of wool fell off a cliff.

Firstly the nearest comparison for price is NZ and we are selling wool for more than they are on a like for like basis. NZ is caught up in the issues of containers, getting them and the rising price of shipping, they are more reliant on Asia than we are for processing and manufacture.

Secondly BW has sold more wool in the last 12 months than it has for many years, admittedly at a low price. When C19 struck it had some 11 million kgs of 2019 wool left to sell, it cleared all of that plus it will be the end of this selling season in July have cleared all of 2020 wool.

We are fortunate in the UK to still have two Scouring plants that require volume to keep going as well as a carpet manufacturing industry. These are still in business and ready to produce a high quality product that will be required for the leisure industry as it restarts around the world.

On the issue of farmers not sending in their wool last season, I am also to blame for this having only sent in a relatively small amount last year and still sitting on over 20 tons. This has been a blow to BW as they had an infrastructure for around 30 million kg but only received around 22 mkg and the fixed costs have significantly increased on a per kg basis. They have or are in the process of selling off at least 3 depots and have reduced staff. Unfortunately not many could be furloughed and you do not want to make graders redundant as they are difficult to replace and take up to five years to train.

The payments made to farmers for last seasons wool are partly funded by a "Reserve Fund" which was initiated in the last year of the Guaranteed payment 1993. This was around £10 million and could only be used with government permission. I believe this will all be used up to pay producers and it should be remembered that a large amount of low quality wool will not have covered the costs of grading, packing, testing and selling. The better wools which have achieved prices above the costs of handling will not have subsidised the others. However prices will need to be seen to increase and costs greatly reduced to get more money back to producers.

I am sending in last years clip next week and would hope that BW can bring in significant changes for what is a unique and essential business that handles a world beating, environmentally friendly product.
Christ you must have a lot of sheep if you sent a small amount in last year and have 20 tonnes of wool left over!!
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
Any one heard that Nock Deighton , Bridgnorth Market have taken Carmarthen Mart on ? Ballsy move I would think ?
I’ve just been into Bridgnorth an can confirm that they are taking on the lease of Carmarthen market, been told that by the main man!! It’s no secret as of from today, if the numbers in Bridgnorth today is anything to go by I would say it’ll be a positive move!
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
One market I used to go to with lambs twenty odd
years ago had everyone thinking they had to
turn up at 5am and even left a massive crater in
the yard that was being used like a roundabout.
That particular market looks well down on numbers brought on by their own arrogance.
 
I’ve just been into Bridgnorth an can confirm that they are taking on the lease of Carmarthen market, been told that by the main man!! It’s no secret as of from today, if the numbers in Bridgnorth today is anything to go by I would say it’ll be a positive move!
Miles away from me and of no connection at all but very nice to hear of a mart opening back up keep the options open
 

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