Australian chap
- Thread starter nelly55
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They can send all they want, the buyers at the warehouses can order all they want but the thing is...it's the punters who make it viable. If they don't buy it all the trade deals in the world don't count for anything. It's not a Boris problem, not an Oz problem, it's only a problem if we the public make it one.
Good luck with that
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- Scottish Highlands
Readymeals and pub dinners - nobody cares where the beef comes from if it's two for a fiver. Sadly.
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- Aberdeenshire
Well if only we paid levies at mart's or sub's to breed societies for promotion and education, Oh wait....
kiwi pom
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Only part of the market though isn't it. Probably a part that uses Irish and Polish Beef, so if other countries can do it cheaper - Australia can't - then its those countries that will lose their supply contracts.
Have any of the supermarkets or large butchers said "oh good, a trade deal, we can replace all the UK shite we have to buy with Aussie stuff"?
Suffolk Serf
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Aussie beef, and for that matter US beef too tastes really good because they are paid on eating quality, rather than our ridiculous EUROP grid system.
Can't we change to that system that now we're not in the EU?
Can't we change to that system that now we're not in the EU?
Australian beef is too expensive atm for any meaningful import quantity and other closer/easier markets have high demand for it.
The ‘high end’ stuff may find a small market though. As said above, it eats much better than a lot of UK product because it has been a marketing criteria for some time and rightfully commands a premium for this.
The ‘high end’ stuff may find a small market though. As said above, it eats much better than a lot of UK product because it has been a marketing criteria for some time and rightfully commands a premium for this.
kiwi pom
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The UK imported 242,837 tonnes of Beef in 2020
Most UK Beef imports come from Ireland, Poland and the Netherlands.
Nearly 200,000 tonnes was imported from Ireland in 2020, which is 80% of imports from the EU.
Less than 5000 tonnes came from countries outside the EU.
So will these future trade deals impact countries currently providing the UK with Beef, UK farmers or both?
Most UK Beef imports come from Ireland, Poland and the Netherlands.
Nearly 200,000 tonnes was imported from Ireland in 2020, which is 80% of imports from the EU.
Less than 5000 tonnes came from countries outside the EU.
So will these future trade deals impact countries currently providing the UK with Beef, UK farmers or both?
Theres only so much beef in the world same as lamb
Exactly my thoughts.
Ireland and Poland are going to be the biggest losers in this deal in my opinion.
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And ourselves, when the US and Argentinian trade deals get drawn up in a similar vein.
Exfarmer
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Your figures are way out!
In 2020 UK imports of beef were 314,000 tonnes 69% from Ireland, 216,600 tonnes. Most EU countries saw a substantial fall off in the Trade except France, who we imported 4,000 tonnes mainly corned beef.
We imported 24,000 tonnes from Brazil
We exported 179,000 tonnes 34% to Ireland
Canada took 6,000 tonnes
Source ADHB
liz truss said the other day that eu imports will shrink to 35000 tonnes a year ,so thats ireland fecked
kiwi pom
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They weren't my figures, got them from this, they say its HMRC figures.
Beef imports into the UK drop by 3% in 2020 | Meat Management magazine
Exfarmer
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I will raise you, https://ahdb.org.uk/news/how-did-the-pandemic-affect-uk-beef-trade-in-2020
I have no idea why the figures are so adrift particularly on Brazil
kiwi pom
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I will raise you, https://ahdb.org.uk/news/how-did-the-pandemic-affect-uk-beef-trade-in-2020
I have no idea why the figures are so adrift particularly on Brazil
I don't know, perhaps the AHDB ones are correct but not everyone declared it to HMRC?
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Our breed societies have enough money squirreled away that they could between them launch a huge campaign for Buy British Locally Sourced Meat. But they won't because everyone knows the society that dies with the most members money in the bank wins.