Kuhn suppy problems

Robt

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Location
Suffolk
Would the manufacturers not have bought the steel when the order was put in for the machine? Not much use if they try to put the price up after the deals done.
thats a good question. Some suppliers of core materials are putting up prices on orders already taken. If you refuse the price increase, they simply wont deliver and will cancel your order!
 

cvx175

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Location
cumbria
Are dealers not ahead of the game and ordering large quantities of grassland machinery the year before? There’s really no excuse for waiting 7 months and longer for a piece of kit these days. We got a new mower for this year, dealer had 2 left from the 2020 models sitting in the yard.
That only works until they've sold them all. When rumours of lely tedder nk longer being made local dealers ordered what they thought would be 2 years worth but had them sold in the first year
 

BBC

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Location
Gloucestershire
Speaking with a few manufacturers recently one of the biggest problems is a shortage of computer chips. Obviously Microsoft and Apple ordering millions get first call, while a agricultural machinery manufacturer is small fry and well down the list. Result is that apparently there are completed tractors costing 10s of thousands stood at the factory that can’t go out because of no chip costing pence.
There is also a shortage of wheel centres and some of the largest manufacturers are in India, where factories were shut down so CO2 could go to the hospitals.
With lead times getting longer will manufacturers start putting a steel surcharge clause into any agreed prices?
 
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nick...

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Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Manufacturers really can’t give prices at the moment.I’m close to ordering a new Volvo excavator even though Volvo order books are officially closed.my dealer will take an order and put me in the que but can’t give a price or delivery date but did say it could be Feb 22,May or even November and that’s fir a standard build.if I wanted any extras it would go as a special build and could take considerably longer.
nick…
 
I don't trust Kuhn for reliable parts supply or new machine supply in the best of times, so it's no surprise that they are even worse in these admittedly testing times.

Across manufacturing of whatever it is it seems manufacturers are in a bidding war for computer chips and raw materials, who will pay most? Most likely Samsung for a computer chip and not an AG manufacturer for example...
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
Are dealers not ahead of the game and ordering large quantities of grassland machinery the year before? There’s really no excuse for waiting 7 months and longer for a piece of kit these days. We got a new mower for this year, dealer had 2 left from the 2020 models sitting in the yard.

Local Claas dealer always has stock grassland machines ordered in advance each year.

They’ve never had a year yet when someone’s mower hasn’t fallen to bits first outing of the year and then come on the phone wanting a new one in a hurry.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
I don't trust Kuhn for reliable parts supply or new machine supply in the best of times, so it's no surprise that they are even worse in these admittedly testing times.

Across manufacturing of whatever it is it seems manufacturers are in a bidding war for computer chips and raw materials, who will pay most? Most likely Samsung for a computer chip and not an AG manufacturer for example...
It’s a perfect storm at present. No supplier wants to invest to increase output for the fear of another slow down which is inevitable in this sea saw world we live in so keep output where it is and increase prices as there are lots of buyers. Fair? No. Real, yes it’s exactly what’s happening. I wouldn’t want to be a building developer at present. Inflation is rampant there. Anyone priced timber recently?? Frightening price hikes
 
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box

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Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
Yup! That’s a good one! Are processing plants behind due to shutdown last year?
I've never really taken much notice of the timber industry because it's such a mess. Sawmills have been steadily closing down over the last 15 or so years, I assume logs are being shipped overseas and then bought back in as processed timber? It would certainly explain the price hikes and supply problem.

Big paper mill closing down at the end of the month, paper to now be brought in from overseas

Even the coal mines have closed down, and coal comes in from overseas.

It's a funny old world.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
I've never really taken much notice of the timber industry because it's such a mess. Sawmills have been steadily closing down over the last 15 or so years, I assume logs are being shipped overseas and then bought back in as processed timber? It would certainly explain the price hikes and supply problem.

Big paper mill closing down at the end of the month, paper to now be brought in from overseas

Even the coal mines have closed down, and coal comes in from overseas.

It's a funny old world.
Always a risky policy to close industries and import the finished product. Would (or wood!) have thought with the tree population in NZ processing would be still important and sustainable?
 

box

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Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
Short sightedness and greed have closed a lot of industry and local manufacturing down.

There's a better deal to be had offshore, you can't see the smoke and environmental impact of a factory in Guangzhou or Bangalore, it must be clean and green. Nevermind the slave labour and atrocious working conditions....

Sorry, going a bit off topic now.
 

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