Valtra v John Deere

I’ve heard of a couple of N Series being recalled that’s all. Apparently one series needs splitting and one series is straight forward but I can’t remember which way around it is
There was a circlip that went loose in the back end when they first came out on some of a certain serial number but that should be sorted now
 
Location
Cleveland
There was a circlip that went loose in the back end when they first came out on some of a certain serial number but that should be sorted now
No i don’t think it’s to do with the circlip….think it’s the lunge it makes changing between D and E (or C and D can’t remember which one it was when I test drove a couple) I will ask the farmer I know what theirs is being recalled for when I see them
 
My 113N hi tech 5 is slow to change range most noticeable between C and D range. Changes faster when oil up to temperature.
I have no qualms about the gearbox but I’ve never had a JD maybe if I’d had one I might think differently
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
I get a little bemused by all the folks who complain about slow range changes......

Go learn to drive a Davy Broon 995 with the 12 speed crash shift (non synchro), or the ford rubix cube column lever, or a 5 speed zetor with the luxury of 4th to 5th synchro, but absolutely no brakes whatsoever, then you'll maybe begin to understand 🤔
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
I get a little bemused by all the folks who complain about slow range changes......

Go learn to drive a Davy Broon 995 with the 12 speed crash shift (non synchro), or the ford rubix cube column lever, or a 5 speed zetor with the luxury of 4th to 5th synchro, but absolutely no brakes whatsoever, then you'll maybe begin to understand 🤔
Weve had a few zetors I can remember one if you nearly stalled it but managed to catch it in time all forward gears became reverse and reverse was forward. Stop it and start it again and it went back to normal
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Weve had a few zetors I can remember one if you nearly stalled it but managed to catch it in time all forward gears became reverse and reverse was forward. Stop it and start it again and it went back to normal
Aye, the engine would run turning backwards!

Zetor were phenomenally capable machines in their day, and taught you how to operate machinery with skill, understanding, and a large repair hammer, but they were also definitely a rather eccentric development of the iron horse 🥰🤣
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Aye, the engine would run turning backwards!

Zetor were phenomenally capable machines in their day, and taught you how to operate machinery with skill, understanding, and a large repair hammer, but they were also definitely a rather eccentric development of the iron horse 🥰🤣
Braking with the pedals split so you could press one harder than the other to stop in a straight line. The 4340 was my favourite with the family cab
 
I get a little bemused by all the folks who complain about slow range changes......

Go learn to drive a Davy Broon 995 with the 12 speed crash shift (non synchro), or the ford rubix cube column lever, or a 5 speed zetor with the luxury of 4th to 5th synchro, but absolutely no brakes whatsoever, then you'll maybe begin to understand 🤔
Tit
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I get a little bemused by all the folks who complain about slow range changes......

Go learn to drive a Davy Broon 995 with the 12 speed crash shift (non synchro), or the ford rubix cube column lever, or a 5 speed zetor with the luxury of 4th to 5th synchro, but absolutely no brakes whatsoever, then you'll maybe begin to understand 🤔

Is it just a slow change though or is the change getting slower with use?
Ones just the way it is, the other is on the way to problems.
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Is it just a slow change though or is the change getting slower with use?
Ones just the way it is, the other is on the way to problems.
It's neither

The range changes are fully robotised, shifting in fractions of a second.

BUT if you press the button for a shift when pulling 20 tonnes up hill, it seems like they're slow because, surprise surprise, gravity makes the tractor slow down

Why? Because it's a full declutch range change. Those who complain haven't had to learn the art of full double declutching to match rpm, up AND downhill
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
It's neither

The range changes are fully robotised, shifting in fractions of a second.

BUT if you press the button for a shift when pulling 20 tonnes up hill, it seems like they're slow because, surprise surprise, gravity makes the tractor slow down

Why? Because it's a full declutch range change. Those who complain haven't had to learn the art of full double declutching to match rpm, up AND downhill

There must be a problem if they are upgrading them.
A good auto shift will range change fast enough to keep momentum a bad one wont.
Of course if the hills too steep and the loads to heavy, you end up back in first gear and out of options.
 
It's neither

The range changes are fully robotised, shifting in fractions of a second.

BUT if you press the button for a shift when pulling 20 tonnes up hill, it seems like they're slow because, surprise surprise, gravity makes the tractor slow down

Why? Because it's a full declutch range change. Those who complain haven't had to learn the art of full double declutching to match rpm, up AND downhill
Still slow on the flat with no load
 

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