It’s not their place though is itTo be fair it does look like they have listened and not gone too mad. As for pushing above legal baseline on health and safety I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing on farms.
Red tractor is produce assurance not elf n safetyIt’s not their place though is it
Slightly weird isn't it. They say a few more standards have had to be introduced, because they are new legislation. Then they gold plate H & S laws."A slight advance on the legal baseline" and on it goes more creep.
"Red Tractor believes"
They're just so arrogant.
What is the latest state of play with ‘comingling’ Red Tractor assured grain with non-assured imported grain?
JM First of all, grain is not “comingled” as such. It is actually kept very separate, so it is possible to track Red Tractor grain all the way back to the farm. The comingling occurs when the miller is trying to get a particular blend for a flour.
Secondly, at the safety level, there is probably no difference – in fact, some millers would actually say the safety standards of imported grain are higher than Red Tractor, because they are subjected to huge amounts of lab testing.
In terms of the other, non-safety standards that may not apply to imported grain, the NFU is leading an inquiry to establish what the differences are.
How can you make Red Tractor more popular with farmers?
JM We don’t necessarily want to be more popular, but would like farmers to appreciate the benefits of Red Tractor more. The principal stakeholder for Red Tractor remains the consumer – and this will become even more important as the market opens up to imports.
There is no point in setting standards that drive farmers out of business, but there is also no point in setting standards that are so weak that imports suit consumers more. I’d also like farmers to recognise that, for what is a relatively minimal audit level, they get access to just about every market, domestically and overseas.
From a Q and A in the FW. Mosely is claiming some millers say the safety standards of imported grain are higher than UK because they are subjected to "huge amounts" of Lab testing. I personally think that's not true- certainly it seems a struggle to find out what tests are done on imported produce and the paper trail for it.
Is Oilseed Rape not comingled?
He wants farmers to appreciate the benefits of RT more. Well for a start why not deliver a premium? Why not create an easy interface to upload all the paperchase? Why not sack employees who insult those who have legitimate concerns about the double standards of the scheme? Why not recognise the UK RT grain market gets totally undermined by imports?
Also I had access to every market before Red Tractor. They are a private company who get in the way.
Also look out for them wanting to charge for compliance inspections for the SFI.
New Red Tractor standards aim to improve farmyards - Farmers Weekly
Enhancing human safety and improving animal health and welfare are two of the main objectives behind the latest review of Red Tractor farm assurancewww.fwi.co.uk
But my milling wheat doesn't end up in a RT product but I have to pay them so I can sell it they just don't get itWhat is the latest state of play with ‘comingling’ Red Tractor assured grain with non-assured imported grain?
JM First of all, grain is not “comingled” as such. It is actually kept very separate, so it is possible to track Red Tractor grain all the way back to the farm. The comingling occurs when the miller is trying to get a particular blend for a flour.
Secondly, at the safety level, there is probably no difference – in fact, some millers would actually say the safety standards of imported grain are higher than Red Tractor, because they are subjected to huge amounts of lab testing.
In terms of the other, non-safety standards that may not apply to imported grain, the NFU is leading an inquiry to establish what the differences are.
How can you make Red Tractor more popular with farmers?
JM We don’t necessarily want to be more popular, but would like farmers to appreciate the benefits of Red Tractor more. The principal stakeholder for Red Tractor remains the consumer – and this will become even more important as the market opens up to imports.
There is no point in setting standards that drive farmers out of business, but there is also no point in setting standards that are so weak that imports suit consumers more. I’d also like farmers to recognise that, for what is a relatively minimal audit level, they get access to just about every market, domestically and overseas.
From a Q and A in the FW. Mosely is claiming some millers say the safety standards of imported grain are higher than UK because they are subjected to "huge amounts" of Lab testing. I personally think that's not true- certainly it seems a struggle to find out what tests are done on imported produce and the paper trail for it.
Is Oilseed Rape not comingled?
He wants farmers to appreciate the benefits of RT more. Well for a start why not deliver a premium? Why not create an easy interface to upload all the paperchase? Why not sack employees who insult those who have legitimate concerns about the double standards of the scheme? Why not recognise the UK RT grain market gets totally undermined by imports?
Also I had access to every market before Red Tractor. They are a private company who get in the way.
Also look out for them wanting to charge for compliance inspections for the SFI.
New Red Tractor standards aim to improve farmyards - Farmers Weekly
Enhancing human safety and improving animal health and welfare are two of the main objectives behind the latest review of Red Tractor farm assurancewww.fwi.co.uk
But my milling wheat doesn't end up in a RT product but I have to pay them so I can sell it they just don't get it
JM sounds even more full of shite than I first thought! Does he think we were born yesterday, arrogant osser
We all knows it's banged straight into mills and mixed, even my trader was telling me how pee'd off he was about all his lorries having to wait hours to be tipped while lorries offloading boats just sailed past straight into the mill and tipped.
The whole system is just junk, you see the new proposals from RT and am sure a lot of you will be thinking, oh that's not too bad just a few extras, you need to remember that this is the attitude that has got us into the current state we're in now.
So what's the betting another raft of rules and regs proposals next year, when they hope we will have forgotten about it and the heat will have calmed down.
Yes and my feed wheat / barley just feeds chickens mostly , so not a Red Tractor labelled product at allBut my milling wheat doesn't end up in a RT product but I have to pay them so I can sell it they just don't get it
And there's a mouse in their pit too.We haul into our local mill(own vehicles) tip into the milling wheat pit which has import milling both organic and conventional. Never clean out between tips. Only a little left in but will be cross contaminated
But my milling wheat doesn't end up in a RT product but I have to pay them so I can sell it they just don't get it
. Mosely is claiming some millers say the safety standards of imported grain are higher than UK because they are subjected to "huge amounts" of Lab testing. I personally think that's not true- certainly it seems a struggle to find out what tests are done on imported produce and the paper trail for it.
New Red Tractor standards aim to improve farmyards - Farmers Weekly
Enhancing human safety and improving animal health and welfare are two of the main objectives behind the latest review of Red Tractor farm assurancewww.fwi.co.uk