Are the General public completely oblivious to the dangers of large farm machinery?

That's the time to stay in the cab, roll a smoke, pour out a drink as it takes a few minutes for them to work it out but if it does then it's best for you to be comfortable.
These stand off's have happened for years, best one I had was on the Clopton Bridge in Stratford on Avon with a combine on Terra Tyres.
It’s the old story of “It’s only a tractor - Bloody farmers” Years ago in the days when I had verge mowing contracts with the County Council one of my men got so fed up with continually having to reverse for cars that when approached by a car that had just passed a passing place he would just stop and get his paper from behind the seat and wait for car to reverse. Nothing as immoveable as a Case 2090 with a big Econ mid- mounted flail!
 

serf

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Location
warwickshire
Up in scotland car drivers seem more sensible
The minute they see twin beacons they pull over
And conversely this seems to have had the opposite effect around here because you see so many tractors on the road with all lights flashing just pulling a trailer or other normal size implement in daylight and this has desensitised the public to ignore flashing lights when they should be used to warn folk of a oversize vehicle or hazard ect . IMO
Basically I think beacons are over used and it has made them ineffective!
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Stuck behind cyclist in the sprayer yesterday, he pulled out in front when I was about 50yds from the junction, so had to brake quite heavily and then follow him for the next mile or so.

He started to get arsey, waving me to pass on an uphill, which I didn’t do as there was a lot of overhanging branches and we were approaching a bend with a high wall, so couldn’t see. Waving got more aggressive as we got closer to bend then an suv with twin axle caravan hurtled round it towards us, having to brake sharply as not a wide road.

Wonder if the bellend on the bike thought any about his roadsense.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Before you complain too much about the idiot actions of the GP, you should think about your own behaviour too.
Yesterday passed in opposite direction, 2 large tractors with baler / collector combination, both apparently flat out.
Nothing wrong with that apart from the speed, or the fact they had attracted quite a tail back of traffic as I know that there was no where for them to have pulled over if they had wanted too.
However the stretch of road is notorious for the bikers to exercise their power.
At least one of the tractor drivers was engrossed, head down to his phone with both hands on it .
If an accident had occurred, even possibly no fault of that driver, his phone use could lead to a jail sentence.
It may be a boring job but there is zero excuse for that sort of behaviour.
 

upnortheast

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Couple of years ago cyclist killed by a combine near here. Header driver stopped and asked 2 cyclists to wait in a gateway till the combine came passed. They ignored him. 1 st one tried to ride through the 6 inch gap between the combine track and the hedge, fell off and under the track. The headline in the paper gave the impression it was the combine drivers fault.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Couple of years ago cyclist killed by a combine near here. Header driver stopped and asked 2 cyclists to wait in a gateway till the combine came passed. They ignored him. 1 st one tried to ride through the 6 inch gap between the combine track and the hedge, fell off and under the track. The headline in the paper gave the impression it was the combine drivers fault.
Morons
 

Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
Before you complain too much about the idiot actions of the GP, you should think about your own behaviour too.
Yesterday passed in opposite direction, 2 large tractors with baler / collector combination, both apparently flat out.
Nothing wrong with that apart from the speed, or the fact they had attracted quite a tail back of traffic as I know that there was no where for them to have pulled over if they had wanted too.
However the stretch of road is notorious for the bikers to exercise their power.
At least one of the tractor drivers was engrossed, head down to his phone with both hands on it .
If an accident had occurred, even possibly no fault of that driver, his phone use could lead to a jail sentence.
It may be a boring job but there is zero excuse for that sort of behaviour.
That is annoying! Hate seeing people driving tractors either texting of on the phone! Happens far to much!!!!!!
 

whatnow

Member
Location
Wiltshire
We farm on the edge of a small town. Reasonably busy dog walking route around here, so we get used to seeing a few people on the farm. Three separate times in the last week people with earphones in have been oblivious to my presence. One I stopped the truck and he nearly walked in to it whilst staring at his phone. Coming down the drive a jogger joined from a footpath straight in front of tractor and loaded trailer- fortunately I’d seen him and slowed right up otherwise it may have been interesting.
In all three cases each one laughed and shrugged it off. A combination of embarrassment and ignorance of what might have happened I assume but a real lack of realisation to what could happen
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
A few of days ago while combining a field with a footpath alone one side I had a very near miss with a member of the public!
The footpath was clear as I’d started cutting along it andI was chopping the straw so a lot of dust blowing towards the path.
Well, a woman had walked at pace and got into my blind spot trying overtake the machine and getting totally covered in chaff in the process.
Anyway as I got to the corner and started to reverse the header came within inches of flattening her 😱. Luckily I saw her at the very last minute, but she was totally obvious to the danger she was putting herself in for the sake of not holding back for what would have been less than a minute.

Then today as I was turning left off the main road with the combine I had a car almost run into the back of the combine as yet again they couldn’t wait for a few seconds!

Then I was then told of a couple incident locally over the past few days involving combines, one involving a motorcyclist that ended really badly 😔.

Is more public education desperately needed about the dangers of large ag machines not only on the road but in the field also?
Everyone seems to be so impatient these days and will literally risk their life to get past a machine, even on foot or on a push bike it’s like a race, it’s just plain crazy!!

Thoughts?
Unfortunately our society tries to legislate and control any dangers, so we have whole generations of people who have never had to learn to assess risks and make their own decisions based on those risks. If we look at Covid, our government is doing that with bells on now. And we are not letting children go out and play (and experience small dangers) and learn what can happen, so when they come across larger dangers, they are not able to comprehend them, damn have you seen the signs in a supermarket wet floor, danger of slipping!
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
People in general now live very very 'safe' lives. As such a lot of us have definitely lost our sense of self-preservation or ability to detect what constitutes risk. It is an odds-on bet that virtually everyone on this forum has damaged a piece of machinery or seen, first or second hand, what speed and weight can do, be it to a gate-post, a machine, a car or a limb. In particular you have a lot more people in the UK venturing into the countryside the last 18 months or so. People who just don't understand that machinery goes backwards as well as forwards, and why should they? They wouldn't venture into a quarry for a walk so would have no clue what all the loud noises do, out on farmland is similarly alien. Out on the road I do think a lot of people are mesmerised by machinery or else they are too focused on their speedometer these days which is an unfortunate side-effect of speed cameras.

I do think that when on the road in machinery we have a lot more responsibility and also control of the situation and traffic around us than we might realise. The position of your vehicle, your escorts and so forth can put you in a commanding position of the road and help govern overall safety. Where this falls down is when people act in a way that they would not ordinarily do for any other road going vehicle and decide to overtake or pass in a way they would never do in normal traffic.
when I did a driver training day at work, I remember my boss was driving, and keeping close to the left and parked cars in town, and the instructor told Paul move out and own the road
 
Location
southwest
Farmers are not totally blameless in this.

How many times before buying a new tractor or machine due you "risk assess" how you're going to move it about on a public road?

And every H&S type thread on here has a couple of posts about seeing people driving while using a phone, do they every report this to the driver's boss or to the Police? I'd speak to the employer the first time, if I saw it again, it would be the police. If they got several reports about the same drivers, they'd speak to them. If you don't want to "grass" on someone, just think how you would feel if the person you saw on their phone today, killed or maimed someone tomorrow?
 

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