Why should I stay..............

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Effectively the property’s are taxed in a way because the incoming buyer has paid substantially more than the local would
Could, and it’s the locals that sell them never forget that bit .

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
Surprising what a sighted moble home costs and then you have to pay ground rent

I know amazing but they very popular up here now .

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
Yes the combined value of my current house and a small cottage (France circa £80-100k or Galloway £150-200k) would likely be less than most TFFers principal house. I still can't see the issue

What has the value got to do with it?
Would have thought its more to do with the fact that its two not one

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

80 Socail houses going up in local town , bet the private builders don’t get planning so easy and the cheap houses will spoil the town .

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
What has the value got to do with it?
Would have thought its more to do with the fact that its two not one

If someone is imposing a tax then surely it's very relevant. Where do you stop? Old boy in a 7 bedroom house alone, evict him, make him sell, compulsory split up in to starter homes

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly said:
I know amazing but they very popular up here now .

Nothing wrong with them and if you have somewhere to put it cheap as chips, you do get looked down on by some though but never mind about them

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
Nothing wrong with them and if you have somewhere to put it cheap as chips, you do get looked down on by some though but never mind about them

Agree .

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
If someone is imposing a tax then surely it's very relevant. Where do you stop? Old boy in a 7 bedroom house alone, evict him, make him sell, compulsory split up in to starter homes

No
Its not anyone's fault what their house is worth, it is their fault if they buy two though

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
No
Its not anyone's fault what their house is worth, it is their fault if they buy two though

I’ve more than two dose that make me greedy then ?

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
No
Its not anyone's fault what their house is worth, it is their fault if they buy two though

Why? Where do you draw the line? If the old boy is in a care home long term can you compulsorily sell it to make homes available ?

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly said:
I’ve more than two dose that make me greedy then ?

Loads of farms have other cottages and accommodation in annexe etc. It's always been part of the overall farm income; holiday lets, Air BNB etc . It was called diversification . This thread would be a lot longer if they decided to slap a £10k tax on anything defined as a second home if that netted them in as well !!

Lefties and Nats will be on a major power trip . "That will be £10k tax per annum in perpetuity unless you agree to hand the place to the State or take only local folks on income support or DHSS"

All sounds a winner to me !

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly said:
I’ve more than two dose that make me greedy then ?

In a way yes but if you let it out to someone who couldn't afford to buy then you are providing a home for someone that wouldn't have one otherwise, what slightly muddys the water is they be able to afford to buy if someone folk hadn't bought more than one?
But they may not want to buy, not everyone does

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
In a way yes but if you let it out to someone who couldn't afford to buy then you are providing a home for someone that wouldn't have one otherwise, what slightly muddys the water is they be able to afford to buy if someone folk hadn't bought more than one?
But they may not want to buy, not everyone does

I can just see Hilly letting to income support / DHSS and local only

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
Why? Where do you draw the line? If the old boy is in a care home long term can you compulsorily sell it to make homes available ?

I don't know, I think they can be sold to pay for care but not sure.

Say someone came along and offered me a million quid for our mobile home would that be my fault ? Say someone offered me 10 quid would that be my fault
I didn't make it the value it is and nor did the old boy in the big house

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
I can just see Hilly letting to income support / DHSS and local only

If he is letting to anyone then he is putting a roof over there head perhaps they are pleased for that.
@Hilly Do you let it out ? And are the folk pleased for the roof over there head? Have you asked them

Ffermer Bach · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
Why don't you just move ? why the need for two homes ?
If there were six people that liked cream cakes and six cream cakes would you take two ?

so how do we differentiate between a buy to let and a second home, if no one was allowed to own a second home, there would be a housing crisis for all the people who live in private rented accommodation. Or how many farms have a farmhouse, and a bungalow that was lived in by the parents?

Turnip · Jul 28, 2021

tje said:
There's 2.4 million on furlough , people isolating due to being " pinged" .We will see how big of a labour shortage there is after the pandemic finished .

As for being racist the UK is least racist country in Europe according to the EU . Its report " being black in the EU" confirms this .

https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-2019-being-black-in-the-eu-summary_en.pdf

Do have any hard evidence to dispute this ??

As requested a bit more analysis of this post. Lets look at the statement made in the post:
As for being racist the UK is least racist country in Europe according to the EU . Its report " being black in the EU" confirms this .
Based on figure 3 in the report the best claim that can be made is that the survey found that people of African descent living in the UK have the lowest prevalence of discrimination on 'ethnic or immigrant background' out of the 12 countries investigated.

As for the report itself, the caveats I mentioned are:
#1 The survey focused on 12 countries, with 28 countries in EU + UK.
A sample needs to be representative of the population as a whole, by only selecting 12 countries the survey is not representative of the EU as a whole.
#2 There were 5803 responses incorporated in the report.
#3 The responses were from immigrants of African descent.
The full report shows number of respondents per country on page 68 table 1. For the UK the number of respondents is 548. Using 2011 census data for the UK the total number of people who identify as Black - African is 989,000 (England/Wales) + 30,000 (Scotland) + 2,345 (Northern Ireland) for a total of 1,021,345 people. For that size population and 548 responses we can calculate the margin of error at 4.19% with a confidence level of 95% so not a bad result in all honesty.
The population of the UK as a whole excluding people who identify as British or Irish is 10,874,303 which means the margin of error and confidence level remain the same but the problem is that the sample isn't representative of the population anymore.

For those interested the full report is available here:

Being Black in the EU

fra.europa.eu

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
I can just see Hilly letting to income support / DHSS and local only

I would but if they wreck my house me n the lads Iwill be round and wreck them ! Red necks houses matter !!

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly said:
I would but if they wreck my house me n the lads Iwill be round and wreck them ! Red necks houses matter !!

Think your boys should apply to Scottish Gov to have rednecks listed as racist language . Your culture must be respected

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