Why should I stay..............

Cowabunga · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
I wouldn't know, I asked ducky where he would draw the line but he failed to answer

That's because I don't know. Probably tax those that come here to retire rather than with a pre-arranged proper job. There's just far too many immigrants coming here after releasing equity in mainly the Home Counties that contribute nothing to the local economy while at an age where they are increasingly likely to require social and health service support. A high proportion tend to eventually regret the move so far away from their families and old friends, finding it impossible to trade back the other way due to inflation and the price gap. This tends to happen at about ten years after moving here when their health starts fading and the long distance driving becomes an unbearable or impossible chore and their families visit less and less often.

Then there is the separate issue of 'holiday homes'. These leave many coastal towns and villages like ghost towns during the Winter months, while many local couples find it impossible to buy even a modest house to live in and work locally.

It is a very big social issue in many areas. It boils down to being a political issue that should be tackled, otherwise the lid will blow one day.

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

10 years time, main house to Freddie, then I only have one and principle house elsewhere

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Cowabunga said:
That's because I don't know. Probably tax those that come here to retire rather than with a pre-arranged proper job. There's just far too many immigrants coming here after releasing equity in mainly the Home Counties that contribute nothing to the local economy while at an age where they are increasingly likely to require social and health service support. A high proportion tend to eventually regret the move so far away from their families and old friends, finding it impossible to trade back the other way due to inflation and the price gap. This tends to happen at about ten years after moving here when their health starts fading and the long distance driving becomes an unbearable or impossible chore and their families visit less and less often.

Then there is the separate issue of 'holiday homes'. These leave many coastal towns and villages like ghost towns during the Winter months, while many local couples find it impossible to buy even a modest house to live in and work locally.

It is a very big social issue in many areas. It boils down to being a political issue that should be tackled, otherwise the lid will blow one day.

Tax away then. North Norfolk Coast and the grander Suffolk Coastal towns (Chelsea on Sea) have better local independent shops, better choice of builders and other goods and services as the money for refurbs come from this money. I actually like going in these shops even though I'm too tight to buy. I also love the Winter months taking the dogs to deserted beaches. It's not just where you are. The need for revision and better social care for the elderly is appropriate for discussion for the entire United Kingdom

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
Think your boys should apply to Scottish Gov to have rednecks listed as racist language . Your culture must be respected

Minority group , the untouchables ha ha ah if only , I’d include the culture of hill farming and fox hunting

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

Hilly said:
Minority group , the untouchables ha ha ah if only , I’d include the culture of hill farming and fox hunting

Game Fair photos this last weekend. Camping fields immaculate on leaving. Compare that with the beaches

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
10 years time, main house to Freddie, then I only have one and principle house elsewhere

That’s the thing isn’t it rules and regs force loopholes to be found and created it’s all a game really .

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
so how do we differentiate between a buy to let and a second home, if no one was allowed to own a second home, there would be a housing crisis for all the people who live in private rented accommodation. Or how many farms have a farmhouse, and a bungalow that was lived in by the parents?

I don't know I just asked some questions, its difficult.
Apparently there are not enough homes to go round for those that want them and there are those that have more than one and one is empty most of the time, I haven't said it should be banned but perhaps it should be thought about, I spose could build lots so everyone could have half a dozen

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
Game Fair photos this last weekend. Camping fields immaculate on leaving. Compare that with the beaches

I saw that , compare with music festivals ! No comparison .

Ffermer Bach · Jul 28, 2021

Cowabunga said:
That's because I don't know. Probably tax those that come here to retire rather than with a pre-arranged proper job. There's just far too many immigrants coming here after releasing equity in mainly the Home Counties that contribute nothing to the local economy while at an age where they are increasingly likely to require social and health service support. A high proportion tend to eventually regret the move so far away from their families and old friends, finding it impossible to trade back the other way due to inflation and the price gap. This tends to happen at about ten years after moving here when their health starts fading and the long distance driving becomes an unbearable or impossible chore and their families visit less and less often.

Then there is the separate issue of 'holiday homes'. These leave many coastal towns and villages like ghost towns during the Winter months, while many local couples find it impossible to buy even a modest house to live in and work locally.

It is a very big social issue in many areas. It boils down to being a political issue that should be tackled, otherwise the lid will blow one day.

I would agree, there needs to be a discussion about these issues, I guess even more so where you have language issues added to the mix. My daughter went to live in South Pembs and eventually moved back to Ceredigion because she said she found it "too English" there (funny, especially as I am English!)

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
I don't know I just asked some questions, its difficult.
Apparently there are not enough homes to go round for those that want them and there are those that have more than one and one is empty most of the time, I haven't said it should be banned but perhaps it should be thought about, I spose could build lots so everyone could have half a dozen

You need ten to make it viable and im
Not joking !

Ffermer Bach · Jul 28, 2021

Henarar said:
I don't know I just asked some questions, its difficult.
Apparently there are not enough homes to go round for those that want them and there are those that have more than one and one is empty most of the time, I haven't said it should be banned but perhaps it should be thought about, I spose could build lots so everyone could have half a dozen

maybe there should be a tax on non residence, so not catching buy to let or holiday let homes but only "second" homes

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

Cowabunga said:
That's because I don't know. Probably tax those that come here to retire rather than with a pre-arranged proper job. There's just far too many immigrants coming here after releasing equity in mainly the Home Counties that contribute nothing to the local economy while at an age where they are increasingly likely to require social and health service support. A high proportion tend to eventually regret the move so far away from their families and old friends, finding it impossible to trade back the other way due to inflation and the price gap. This tends to happen at about ten years after moving here when their health starts fading and the long distance driving becomes an unbearable or impossible chore and their families visit less and less often.

Then there is the separate issue of 'holiday homes'. These leave many coastal towns and villages like ghost towns during the Winter months, while many local couples find it impossible to buy even a modest house to live in and work locally.

It is a very big social issue in many areas. It boils down to being a political issue that should be tackled, otherwise the lid will blow one day.

So anyone in retirement that hasn't lived in the parish before? What about someone from south Wales? A lot from there don't speak any Welsh should they be allowed to come ?
There is a retired Welsh chap lives up the road, should he have not been allowed to come here? but if he went to Wales he don't speak any Welsh so thats no good,
oh dear what a job it is when someone tries to say who can do what

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
maybe there should be a tax on non residence, so not catching buy to let or holiday let homes but only "second" homes

The issue if it is an issue of second homes could be tackled by tax quite easy but attempting to say can move where would be a lot more difficult

Hilly · Jul 28, 2021

Ffermer Bach said:
maybe there should be a tax on non residence, so not catching buy to let or holiday let homes but only "second" homes

That will
Just make holidays more expensive as it will
Gp On the price .

Secret Agronomist · Jul 28, 2021

Has anyone mentioned the additional dwelling supplement that we have in Scotland. 4% on purchase price of anything over £40,000 IIRC. I have always lived in a tied house so had a couple of buy to lets when it was in vogue (cheap money, better tax breaks). But we have always wanted to live in our own house (eventually) so the BTL was the way to do that. Sold the BTLs now and used the £ to buy a project house. Wouldn't go into BTL now in Scotland due to the extra cost and more restrictive letting system.
We usually try to holiday on cottages somewhere but when we go to (for example) Nethy Bridge in the Cairngorms for a week in early December it is obvious a lot of the homes are empty for a chunk of the year. Even if they are let by the week as opposed to someones 2nd home there are quite times when a lot are empty. I obviously mean in normal circumstances, this year they are full up and the price is inflated as well.
So maybe there does need to be a tax on 2nd homes, and probably fairly substantial at that, this would discourage some that are just on the limit of affording a holiday home. and the ones that can really afford it, well they can be bled white by the local authorities. The problem is that there needs to be a distinction between holiday homes and stuff that is let on a proper tenancy, maybe it could be done through a rating system or local income tax! Or through the council tax, it wouldn't be difficult to get someone to trawl through all the cottage websites and see which is which, or they could just count the keysafes on doors

glasshouse · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
Your economy and rural life. £10k tax , keep out of Scotland. What a great advert . That tax will get pished away on nowt

Rural life will improve as workers will be able to afford a home and have some money to spend in thr village shop
No one says keep out of scotland, just stay in a hotel

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

I'm not the type but it almost means it's better when I get to retirement age to sell up have a ball then make sure I'm under the £32k asset base and let the state pick up the tab for my total welfare and provision.

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

glasshouse said:
Rural life will improve as workers will be able to afford a home and have some money to spend in thr village shop
No one says keep out of scotland, just stay in a hotel

Or motor home, caravan, tent

Henarar · Jul 28, 2021

JP1 said:
I'm not the type but it almost means it's better when I get to retirement age to sell up have a ball then make sure I'm under the £32k asset base and let the state pick up the tab for my total welfare and provision.

Oh absolutely they may even give you a place in Scotland if you ask

JP1 · Jul 28, 2021

glasshouse said:
Rural life will improve as workers will be able to afford a home and have some money to spend in thr village shop
No one says keep out of scotland, just stay in a hotel

Yes you are

Unless you've jobs for those young families they won't be there and if they are there they likely would trek to the local supermarket than use the local store

If you want to see the most vibrant villages in this area go to the ones that service the incomers; better independent shops, restaurants, pubs

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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