warksfarmer
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Had been told something similar of a crop near Stafford but didn’t believe it so maybe there is something in it.
Extase potential problems
- Thread starter willy
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Had been told something similar of a crop near Stafford but didn’t believe it so maybe there is something in it.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
The cases I am aware of (one case is a client farm) were sown October to mid November - so not particularly early? And on same farm and in adjacent fields is Extase with less symptoms. It is that which is more concerning. The seeming randomness of this 'effect' whatever the cause may be. Of the cases I know of a fungicide programme was applied that was possibly more than the experts would say necessary given the disease tolerance of the variety. And in my case the two fields most affected are full of ergot - which would suggest maybe an open flowering habit issue?? And link to flowering and pollination rather than, or in addition to frost damage. I am aware representatives of KWS have visited some of these sites. What good that will do I doubt! But then I am jaundiced. The variety has done well by many farmers - as we witness on this thread and thus will continue to be widely grown - and successfully I expect. As with many things in life 'it is just one of those things' except when it is you. Cheers.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Why are you so distrusting ??
- Location
- Lincolnshire
For a reduced risk variety, this info increases the risk for me over other varieties. Which is a big shame.
Same here.
I'm putting it down to septoria nodorum which came in during that 5" of rain at the end of June beginning of July.
Killed off the flag leaves and got up onto the ears - Graham not troubled much by it (nor Diego
).
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Extase looked great last year (9t plus potential) and ended up doing about 6.5t/ha. 1t/ha less than Zyatt and 2t less than Gleam. This year it seems to be decent, but reading this thread the risk of an unexpected disaster is a big turn off. @dontknowanything has had two bad experiences with it. We had the same as others - upright ears that never really seemed to finish.
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Been happy with Extase so far, probably cut around 90 ha. Another 90 ish to go. It was going to make up 50% of my wheat are next year.
Really struggling with planned varieties now.
Really struggling with planned varieties now.
FarmerBruce
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- Location
- Yorkshire
It’s a very big risk if it doesn’t produce grains!
dontknowanything
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- Location
- Cambridge
This is correct. In addition to poor yields, it also didn’t flow properly in our drier, breaking three chains in ways I’ve never seen before. Will not be touching with a barge pole in future. Shame.
Just received this message this morning from a local friend.
“Working for a customer at the the moment who on 2 fields had extase on one half and Graham on the other extase very disappointing on both sites approx 1.5 ton/ha less than Graham, a huge amount of upright deaf ears in the extase , I hope ours isn’t as bad when we get to it”
There’s going to be some nervous seed merchants and very disappointed farmers if this becomes more widespread.
I fear mine is similar, tall erect blackened heads of unfilled, no grain set ears and where I have rubbed out grains they appear pinched and have not fully filled.
dontknowanything
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- Location
- Cambridge
Yes, we had upright blackened ears too.
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
It's a massive shame because ours looked amazing all year. Put some in late October into some very marginal conditions and the way it shrugged off the adversity was one of the more impressive things I've seen crop wise for a while. Earlier than other varieties to help spray timings, but the downside risk is too large.
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
I was happy with mine. No T0 or T3. 175KgsN/ha.
Saw it up to 11.5T/ha a few times.
Worrying though that I’ve also heard of a very poor looking bit a couple of villages away. Black, upright ears.
Saw it up to 11.5T/ha a few times.
Worrying though that I’ve also heard of a very poor looking bit a couple of villages away. Black, upright ears.
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Fish
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- Location
- North yorkshire
After reading this thread, and my own experience of cutting extase next to other varieties, I would say the risk is far to great and therefore extase is completely dead in the water.
another great white hope bits the dust.
another great white hope bits the dust.
- Location
- East yorks
So we have this and the cougar parent varieties breaking down, glad the recommended list is worth our levy payments 
A disaster for those too big into Extase, but an upward price creep on alternative varieties should soon kick in for the others.