"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
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Somerset
years ago, all our silage ground would have been IRG, with massive yields, over the last 10/12 years, or so, yields just don't happen, why, not sure.
But, it's a big big change, from IRG to 'old' grasses, that we do now, prg replacing irg, and bringing back those old 'weed' grasses, Perhaps one reason can be explained, by the fact that we used to drill at 13kg/acre, and now up to 18kg. We now have to back track to 13/14kg, because we use smaller seed, just think, 18kg of timothy and w clover, now that would be A+ for groundcover.
my experience of any rye grass is that it looks more than it is
always seems so open, no real density, not very good ground cover.
well that's the impression I have got from years of baling our own and other folks stuff
 

tinsheet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Somerset
Whilst mowing an old permanant pasture last week i came across this, wild vetch if im not mistaken?
Field not been ploughed for 30 years+
Quiet abit of it about.
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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
l don't think its vetch. We do have a lot of wild vetch here, both yellow and purple, which is why l thought vetch would do well here, in the grazing leys, which it didn't, but all the wild vetch is growing in the banks. It did grow in the rye, exceedingly well.
 

Fenwick

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Location
Bretagne France
As promised

4 days ahead of the cows.
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about 13 days ahead
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about 25 days ahead

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maybe 50 days ahead?

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heres a shot of the same field. Pretty happy with the state of this field (bale grazed here last winter in the snow), and growth is pretty even despite it being an old pp with cocksfoot, meadow grass rg and brome (would like more legumes though) - grazed once so far this year.

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and then a few odd areas like this where there are volunteer summer c4 annuals.
(sorry my rule only goes to 68cms)
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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
3 are plantain, 7 days behind the cows, the maize was sown 6th june, after h/rye and vetch, which l have put a pic in, 15ton/ac of rye/vetch, and maize looks great. And one, to show the view from the top of our farm, looking west, where the weather comes from, grown maize on the hill, where the 1st plantain pic is, maize might get to 3ft tall, so back to grass.
Cow turned up, at a neighbours today, with a calf, 1/2 mile, by road, away. At least she was alive and well, where she actually got to, in between, no idea.
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sheepdogtrail

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Livestock Farmer
As promised

4 days ahead of the cows.
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about 13 days ahead
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about 25 days ahead

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maybe 50 days ahead?

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heres a shot of the same field. Pretty happy with the state of this field (bale grazed here last winter in the snow), and growth is pretty even despite it being an old pp with cocksfoot, meadow grass rg and brome (would like more legumes though) - grazed once so far this year.

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and then a few odd areas like this where there are volunteer summer c4 annuals.
(sorry my rule only goes to 68cms)
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Certainly there is some great food in there. And lots of it. My estimate would be between 3 1/2 - 4 1/2 tons DM/Acre. What is your formula for utilization %? How many animals do you have on it and what is the average brake size of the sets.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Nice bit of kit Pete. Looks great. You should be able to tote around a fair amount of tools on it. Will it pop a wheelie?
I can manual on most things 🤪 one thing it does do really well is "four-wheel-drive-drifting" if you really get on it around corners

otherwise almost too smooth in the delivery to do that, but I left 2 black straps on my mate's concrete workshop floor (y)

Just needs it's wire crossing kit fitted..... 👍
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All sorted - only 6 bolts attach the main frame, and 2 more for the little holder for the pogos, by the back wheel. So easy to bolt things onto them with all the lugs on the frame
 

sheepdogtrail

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Livestock Farmer
I can manual on most things 🤪 one thing it does do really well is "four-wheel-drive-drifting" if you really get on it around corners

otherwise almost too smooth in the delivery to do that, but I left 2 black straps on my mate's concrete workshop floor (y)

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All sorted - only 6 bolts attach the main frame, and 2 more for the little holder for the pogos, by the back wheel. So easy to bolt things onto them with all the lugs on the frame
How cool is that. Looks very useful. Lets us know how you get on with it for a work bike. BTW, is that some sort of rocker for the front wheel so you can do wheelies on the front tire?
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
How cool is that. Looks very useful. Lets us know how you get on with it for a work bike. BTW, is that some sort of rocker for the front wheel so you can do wheelies on the front tire?
It's "quite weird" getting used to these things. I can set it all up via my smartphone, but they seem to lead away with the front wheel first, and then the rear motor kicks in as soon as you move off.
Makes it really good if you coast to a stop uphill, most bikes would dig a little getting moving where these don't, they'll spin the front wheel if anything.
Great in ruts though, really pulls you along and helps keep it all straight.

It's even got a good horn, which is going to be a lot of fun on an otherwise silent machine, and a 2400 lumen light on the front. I'll use it for commuting as well as a farmbike
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holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
It's "quite weird" getting used to these things. I can set it all up via my smartphone, but they seem to lead away with the front wheel first, and then the rear motor kicks in as soon as you move off.
Makes it really good if you coast to a stop uphill, most bikes would dig a little getting moving where these don't, they'll spin the front wheel if anything.
Great in ruts though, really pulls you along and helps keep it all straight.

It's even got a good horn, which is going to be a lot of fun on an otherwise silent machine, and a 2400 lumen light on the front. I'll use it for commuting as well as a farmbike
Will it need WOF/COF for the road?
 

sheepdogtrail

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Livestock Farmer
It's "quite weird" getting used to these things. I can set it all up via my smartphone, but they seem to lead away with the front wheel first, and then the rear motor kicks in as soon as you move off.
Makes it really good if you coast to a stop uphill, most bikes would dig a little getting moving where these don't, they'll spin the front wheel if anything.
Great in ruts though, really pulls you along and helps keep it all straight.

It's even got a good horn, which is going to be a lot of fun on an otherwise silent machine, and a 2400 lumen light on the front. I'll use it for commuting as well as a farmbike
Wait. You telling me that power is being applied to both wheels at once from the battery pack? Had no ideal they are making like that. Even better.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Wait. You telling me that power is being applied to both wheels at once from the battery pack? Had no ideal they are making like that. Even better.
Yep, each wheel motor has about 120 ft/lb of torque, so they climb really well. Has a 0-30MPH of about 6 seconds, or so?
Neat design, they have a brushless motor running a planetary reduction gearset, so it is quite growly - they improved the cooling on these Gen5 models.
The "dashboard" is now a smartphone app (speedo, battery, motor temperatures and regen brake /power settings)

But, it handles more like my downhill MtB than a dirtbike, just with wider handlebars and a lot less puffing 🙂
 

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