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DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
We stopped growing rye because it was £5 a ton below feed wheat and it could go flat. I fully agree fiddly specialist crops should be at a premium above not below feed wheat. The present discounts beggars belief really and sums up the contempt the trade has for the farmers effort. Rye grows well here but had to be on a contract to have a worthwhile market. And they had us over a barrel, never collecting till June and being as fussy as hell about it. Transport to Poole finally killed it. They import it cheaper from Germany. Thanks a lot.👍
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Is that for this E10 petrol malarkey - the biofuel fuel that reduces your mpg ?
Ethanol production I can understand and would support, especially in place of French or South American maize.

But AD to make methane (not ethanol) I thought used a mix of 'waste products' and 'energy' beat with ensiled maize / grass / cereal whole crop? Using £170 barley sounds financially insane.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Sold a few tones feed wheat to ease cash flow

£189 pay now plus storage cost so buyer can move when they want

Used some of the storage income to buy may futures to cover off market rises (or falls off course !) So still technically 100% unsold 🙂
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Used some of the storage income to buy may futures to cover off market rises (or falls off course !) So still technically 100% unsold 🙂

Technically this sounds like a 'Cash and Carry'.
Usually the 'carry' part equates to £1 a month, so either your futures are extremely cheap, or you're being offered a significantly better rate for the carry.

[edited for clarity]
 
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D14

Member
Technically this sounds like a 'Cash and Carry'.
Usually the 'carry' part equates to £1 a month, so either your futures are extremely cheap, or I'm being offered a crap rate for the carry.

Group 1 yesterday for September collection was £210 + £1/month carry. Decided to sit on it I think and see whats happening around Christmas time.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Technically this sounds like a 'Cash and Carry'.
Usually the 'carry' part equates to £1 a month, so either your futures are extremely cheap, or you're being offered a significantly better rate for the carry.

[edited for clarity]

I’m not carrying it - im being paid for the storage (fixed price for the season ) it could move tomorrow or next June - up to the crops new physical owner !!

my futures position keeps me in the market so i can still benefit from market rises when wheat is £250 in May ……. or be crying into my cornflakes when its £150

the storage fee more than covers the option cost plus there is a “cost of money” value to consider in this £1/t/m doesn’t really cut the mustard does it !

much the same risk as if i simply didn’t sell some tonnage yesterday but with the advantage of generating a bit of cash flow immediately (needs must as just built a new shed)

only done a few % like this - i will gamble the rest the good old fashioned physical pile way 🤣
 
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