Cash is King or Not?

stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
With card payments its instant out of your account but the money does not usually hit the traders/recipients account for 3-4 working days , billions in limbo and generating the card companies lots of interest.
Not here, (for the benefit of @warksfarmer, here is as per the location under my name on the left;) ) the monies land in the payees account at the same time they leave the the payers, can be seen instantly if you are with the same bank or within a couple of hours if different banks, a bank card really is no different to a cheque book apart from it being quicker, easier and less costly to transact.
Credit cards are different although they are useful and offer some protection.
 
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Lincoln75

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Not here, the monies land in the payees account at the same time they leave the the payers, can be seen instantly if you are with the same bank or within a couple of hours if different banks, a bank card really is no different to a cheque book apart from it being quicker, easier and less costly to transact.
Credit cards are different although they are useful and offer some protection.
UK banking is clearly completely different to NZ and else where , if I pay a cheque into my business account I can draw off it next day , who ever written it , so quicker than card payments.
 

Lincoln75

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No they don't, kids live in a modern world and need to know how it operates, my kids have never used cash, they still understand the value of money and how to save.
Fine if they never travel abroad and stay in the UK , it`ll be decades before some countries bank like the UK/Western world , it is important to understand handling cash.
 

stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
UK banking is clearly completely different to NZ and else where , if I pay a cheque into my business account I can draw off it next day , who ever written it , so quicker than card payments.
Are you confusing a bank card with a credit card, they are totally different. a bank card is really only a plastic form of a cheque book with it being instant as opposed to waiting a day to clear, NZ doesn't use cheques along with a lot of the rest of the world.
 

Lincoln75

Member
Is it bollix.
Anybody I phone, insurance etc., and need to pay them there and then. Quote the long number and security code, debit or credit card, and within seconds I get a "Thats gone through fine".
:rolleyes: Clearly you dont understand what they mean when they say "that's gone through fine ", they just mean the payment has been authorised and they are guaranteed the payment , it wont actually be available to them for a few days .
 
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stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Fine if they never travel abroad and stay in the UK , it`ll be decades before some countries bank like the UK/Western world , it is important to understand handling cash.
Most of the world used to bank like the UK, most have moved on and operate a simpler more efficient system, the UK may catch up one day! Why is it so important to understand cash? Cash is really only needed by drug dealers and hookers.
 
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Lincoln75

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Are you confusing a bank card with a credit card, they are totally different. a bank card is really only a plastic form of a cheque book with it being instant as opposed to waiting a day to clear, NZ doesn't use cheques along with a lot of the rest of the world.
Why are you comparing NZ banking to UK , it`s not the same :rolleyes: , I`m not confusing anything , I have a business that takes debit and credit cards , the transaction happens the same for both.
The US still uses cheques , I have an American account with a cheque book.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Why are you comparing NZ banking to UK , it`s not the same :rolleyes: , I`m not confusing anything , I have a business that takes debit and credit cards , the transaction happens the same for both.
The US still uses cheques , I have an American account with a cheque book.
The banking system is pretty much the same the world over, some countries have a more advanced system than others, the principles are the same. Interesting that the debit card and credit card transactions are the same in the UK that is not the case here, why do they do that?
Yes some countries still use cheques, many are moving away from them.
 

Lincoln75

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They have travelled the world and only took a card. Brother rode a bike from the UK back to NZ through some fairly remote places, only took a card and a few USD with him, used the card everywhere even in the remoter places of the Stans, only ever had a problem using it in the UK.
Cards can only be taken if theres an internet or phone link , many areas in the third world dont have this , in addition do you really think that some small village shop in Central Africa could afford to have a card machine with a turnover of under $US 500.00? , the terminals I have cost £25.00 p.m and around 1.5% , however if they are dormant the monthly fees is around £40.00.
 

Foxcover

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They have travelled the world and only took a card. Brother rode a bike from the UK back to NZ through some fairly remote places, only took a card and a few USD with him, used the card everywhere even in the remoter places of the Stans, only ever had a problem using it in the UK.

I travelled NZ in 2015 and it’s definitely not the modern, electronic society you describe. Auckland/Wellington/Christchurch are fairly modern but most small towns are lucky if they have one ATM and most business expected cash, felt like stepping back in time 20 years which I quite enjoyed!
This UK bashing from people who don’t live here is getting a bit boring now.
 

caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
:rolleyes: Clearly dont understand what they mean when they say "that's gone through fine ", they just mean the payment has been authorised and they are guaranteed the payment , it wont actually be available to them for a few days .
And your statement is "if I pay a cheque into my account".

If = when.

I have a cheque here for over £1k.
Arrived Friday. Won't be in bank untill next midweek via local Post Office unless I go to town and all that hassle.
Too big for paying in by phone piccie.
 

Lincoln75

Member
Worth noting numerous small farm shops selling eggs and veg at the gate obviously dont take cards and why would they ? the set up and monthly fee`s would be cost prohibitive, the same as it is for other small turnover businesses .
 

Lincoln75

Member
And your statement is "if I pay a cheque into my account".

If = when.

I have a cheque here for over £1k.
Arrived Friday. Won't be in bank untill next midweek via local Post Office unless I go to town and all that hassle.
Too big for paying in by phone piccie.
My office is 50 yards from the bank , if a cheque is a big one and you need the money asap send someone to the bank to pay it in .
 
Non of the kebab houses round here use cards , half the orders are delivered so everybody pays cash ,,Carboot markets the same,,well where else can the eu buyers get rid of it .
I wonder what our ‘friendly’ local large Sunday market host does with all the cash to dispose of it ?
Those buckets that the car park people stand with must weigh heavy by the close of play !!
 

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