Anyone figure out this make of old tipper trailer?

DeeBee

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Horticulture
Sad to say, my old 6 x 4 compact tipper trailer broke yesterday after 36 years of service!

Got it in a job lot along with a nice old JD855 some years ago, never did figure out who the maker was.

I'm keen to get it repaired as it's been useful for so many jobs, such a handy size and incredibly tough for its small footprint (2200 kg gross capacity!).

Can anyone maybe figure out who it might be made by from this partially faded plate?

I'm guessing maybe the first bit is supposed to say "Swansea Trailer Gen.. or Cen"? and the name in brackets looks like it ends in "...ic"

Trailer is from 1986. Original colour was brown.
 

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DeeBee

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You're right - a picture of the whole trailer would help! Will post later...

Just to clarify... no I'm not looking for original parts, have a local engineer who will rehab the trailer for me. The identification is just for the sake of interest.
 

DeeBee

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...In terms of looks, the closest I could find was a Marshall, but that doesn't seem to match with what's visible on the plate.
 

Tractortech

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A colleague at work refabricated a similar size Fraser trailer over a period of time. By the time he welded a new floor in, repaired the corrosion around the bottom of the drop sides and then found the chassis was corroded and needed repair. Then painted the whole thing. £200.00 for materials, If he costed his time a new trailer would have looked 'economic'!!
 
I have seen trailer which is Fleming, not a lot to show for the money!!
But that applies to most things Even with increased steel costs making one would be feasible
 

DeeBee

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Here are some pics of the trailer.. sadly strapped to the lifting bar since the main towing beam broke!

I'm laying down a track and doing field entrances with what they call "slig" over here in Ireland (I'd never heard of it before moving here from UK 13 years ago). It's grey crumbly slate-like rock - I'm no geologist!!

Ok... I confess I probably was overloading it... but bear in mind it's 36 years old, and I used it last year for the same sort of stuff... moved 6 x 14tonne loads last year and have so far moved 5 x 14 tonne loads this year before it gave up the ghost. My little JD 855 pulling and pumping the hydraulics without a care in the world by the way :)

It's been painted grey at some point.

So anyway, the trailer is in temporary retirement pending a fix... and just today went and bought a second-hand "bog" trailer... pics of that to follow - there will be no identification of that though since I suspect it;s a Frankenstein!
 

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DeeBee

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Earlier this year the local hall bought similar size new trailer, out of interest I looked up price and it was nearly £2000 ,probably a lot more now.

I have seen trailer which is Fleming, not a lot to show for the money!!
But that applies to most things Even with increased steel costs making one would be feasible

yup.. aware of the fleming tr1: https://www.farmandplant.ie/listings/farm-machinery/for-sale/203170109/2018-fleming-tr1?dlr=1&if=1

lot of money for a little trailer... It can carry 1.5T... my gross capacity is 2.2T... estimating the weight of the trailer to be no more than 350kg, that still leaves 1850kg payload.

I suspect I may have put a shade over 2 tonnes in it at a time.. which would explain why it broke.. BUT it took MANY such loads to break it!
 

DeeBee

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Horticulture
A colleague at work refabricated a similar size Fraser trailer over a period of time. By the time he welded a new floor in, repaired the corrosion around the bottom of the drop sides and then found the chassis was corroded and needed repair. Then painted the whole thing. £200.00 for materials, If he costed his time a new trailer would have looked 'economic'!!
My first thought was that rust weakened it. It is certainly showing signs of age but I keep checking and nothings really eaten away, still solid. On inspecting the beam where it broke it was bright metal - but thinned where it had been flexing under stress.

I reckon now is just the nick of time to grind off all the old rust and get some red oxide and good topcoat on it. Oh yes, and the bed is thinning admittedly. One other thing it would benefit greatly from would be some wide low ground pressure tyres.

So I'm looking at my own labour, paint, the cost of repairs, a new bed and new wheels and tyres. Undoubtedly will cost a few quid but I'm guessing less than the 2,000 plus it would cost me to get a new one.. that isn't as well built.

I'm a bit of a nut for classic gear anyway, the tractor is 1985 and I have an old 1984 Landrover defender.. all in need of plenty TLC.
 

Tractortech

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Location
Cumbria
Here are some pics of the trailer.. sadly strapped to the lifting bar since the main towing beam broke!

I'm laying down a track and doing field entrances with what they call "slig" over here in Ireland (I'd never heard of it before moving here from UK 13 years ago). It's grey crumbly slate-like rock - I'm no geologist!!

Ok... I confess I probably was overloading it... but bear in mind it's 36 years old, and I used it last year for the same sort of stuff... moved 6 x 14tonne loads last year and have so far moved 5 x 14 tonne loads this year before it gave up the ghost. My little JD 855 pulling and pumping the hydraulics without a care in the world by the way :)

It's been painted grey at some point.

So anyway, the trailer is in temporary retirement pending a fix... and just today went and bought a second-hand "bog" trailer... pics of that to follow - there will be no identification of that though since I suspect it;s a Frankenstein!
Ahhhhhhh, other than the broken drawbar, it doesn't look in bad order.. Flip it over and set to with the big angle grinder, you'll soon cut what's left of the drawbar out. Weld a new one in. Sit a little fillet at 45° where it meets the trailer crossmember for a little extra strength..
 
Sad to say, my old 6 x 4 compact tipper trailer broke yesterday after 36 years of service!

Got it in a job lot along with a nice old JD855 some years ago, never did figure out who the maker was.

I'm keen to get it repaired as it's been useful for so many jobs, such a handy size and incredibly tough for its small footprint (2200 kg gross capacity!).

Can anyone maybe figure out who it might be made by from this partially faded plate?

I'm guessing maybe the first bit is supposed to say "Swansea Trailer Gen.. or Cen"? and the name in brackets looks like it ends in "...ic"

Trailer is from 1986. Original colour was brown.
Gamic ?
 

DeeBee

Member
Horticulture
You're spot on, it is indeed a Gamic... nothing like what they make these days - I can't see any tractor mounted tippers on their site they're all electric/manual Ifor style ones.

Thanks for solving the puzzle for me, I'd never heard of Gamic until you mentioned them :)
 

DeeBee

Member
Horticulture
Ahhhhhhh, other than the broken drawbar, it doesn't look in bad order.. Flip it over and set to with the big angle grinder, you'll soon cut what's left of the drawbar out. Weld a new one in. Sit a little fillet at 45° where it meets the trailer crossmember for a little extra strength..
My thoughts exactly... hopefully the 45's would help stiffen up that stress point.

I should have known better really as I could see the chassis flexing under the load as I tipped... "only those who risk going too far... will find out how far they can go... " or some-such as T S Eliot said.
 

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