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dave mountain

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11k for a cattle crush 😱
Quite, they are well worth it but you've got to wonder if they are inflating the prices just because they know they are only ever bought with significant grant input. from an engineering point of view I really don't really see 11k of materials/labour in that crush, let alone with the savings from mass producing them.
 
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Hilly

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Quite, they are well worth it but you've got to wonder if they are inflating the prices because they know they are only ever bought with significant grant input. from an engineering point of view I really don't really see 11k of materials/labour in that crush, let alone with the savings from mass producing them.
I do see 11k in it actually , I do a bit of engineering myself and the work that’s gone into it materials which have doubled and some of that is load bars and weigh head galvanising marketing etc etc etc I’d want 11k for it as well .
 

Hilly

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We got a mk2 at a farm sale near Bewcastle about 15 years ago, think we paid £750 or something, wire brushed it off and painted it when we got home and it’s still sound as a bell now.
My mk1 is still in good condition but I keep it washed and oiled etc it’s had a replaced rump bar as first one was no good, I might make it into a mobile race crush pens one day if I ever get time .
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
I do see 11k in it actually , I do a bit of engineering myself and the work that’s gone into it materials which have doubled and some of that is load bars and weigh head galvanising marketing etc etc etc I’d want 11k for it as well .
Personally I think I could do it for less, steel still isn't that expensive in the grand scheme of things, less than £7.50/m for 50x50x3 which looks cheap next to £1.30/m just for roofing batten or £9/m for 9x2 timber. £40/ hour for welder/workshop time, £400 weigh cells £500 of galvanising, youd need to work hell of a slow to rack it up to £11k.

But you are right, I would probably want £11k if I were selling them
 

Wombat

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Quite, they are well worth it but you've got to wonder if they are inflating the prices just because they know they are only ever bought with significant grant input. from an engineering point of view I really don't really see 11k of materials/labour in that crush, let alone with the savings from mass producing them.
We wanted a new one but for my 60 animals you cannot get a sensible basic one on the grant which is nonsense you have to spend 5k plus which is just silly
 

Hilly

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Personally I think I could do it for less, steel still isn't that expensive in the grand scheme of things, less than £7.50/m for 50x50x3 which looks cheap next to £1.30/m just for roofing batten or £9/m for 9x2 timber. £40/ hour for welder/workshop time, £400 weigh cells £500 of galvanising, youd need to work hell of a slow to rack it up to £11k.

But you are right, I would probably want £11k if I were selling the
Personally I think I could do it for less, steel still isn't that expensive in the grand scheme of things, less than £7.50/m for 50x50x3 which looks cheap next to £1.30/m just for roofing batten or £9/m for 9x2 timber. £40/ hour for welder/workshop time, £400 weigh cells £500 of galvanising, youd need to work hell of a slow to rack it up to £11k.

But you are right, I would probably want £11k if I were selling them
the weighing equipment is darned sight more than £400 quid I can assure you, your costsings are fag packet , in the real world away from a farm they a lot more rates for a starter for ten , couriers , secutarys advertising the list is endless and proffit because he makes a damn good product .
 

Hilly

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Bigger farmers locally just buying the cheapest crush they can still get a grant for, needs to be over £5k so most smaller farmers don't bother as they can't justify that even after the grant.
They were spending over ten k on hydraulic crushes round here ten years ago ! I put thousands through mine a year , the last crush I bought off him was £1000 kicking on thirty years ago so it owes me nothing I will claim half the cost of this back so as far as I’m concerned it’s a cheap bit of kit for me .
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
They were spending over ten k on hydraulic crushes round here ten years ago ! I put thousands through mine a year , the last crush I bought off him was £1000 kicking on thirty years ago so it owes me nothing I will claim half the cost of this back so as far as I’m concerned it’s a cheap bit of kit for me .
Different world to around me it would seem, the best crushes around me are the £5001 ones previously mentioned
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
The weigh cells possibly are more I've not bought any for years, there is 4k tops of materials in that and I cannot see 175 hours of workshop time, even as a 1 off, so on a production line (usually 40%+ labour reduction) 11k leaves a very good margin even after all the overhead costs. £40/hour is for fully equipped fabrication shop, not some bloke in a shed with a stick welder, so 175 hours is a sh*t load of work. If I could get a grant I would make myself one 😂
 

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