Wreckers!!

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
I do agree it must be a fault with these trailers. I do not think trailer manufacturers and the tractor driver have not read Isaac Newton three laws of motion . In this example
Height of trailer , width of axles, speed and gravity . And too fast into a corner and gravity will always win. Just my two pennies on the subject.
What brand of trailer is it? I see redrock is makin thier trailers a bit wider now, wev 2 of them and theyr a real good trailer
 

Bob lincs

Member
Arable Farmer
One like this that tripped and fell the other year .
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Bongodog

Member
Its a Larrington, I happened to be driving past just after it happened, you will all be pleased to know that not only is the driver ok, he was out of the cab and still had his phone clamped to his ear. they have been driving through the area for weeks like maniacs, surprised it took so long, must have been right in the limit as its only a fairly gentle s bend.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I do agree it must be a fault with these trailers. I do not think trailer manufacturers and the tractor driver have not read Isaac Newton three laws of motion . In this example
Height of trailer , width of axles, speed and gravity . And too fast into a corner and gravity will always win. Just my two pennies on the subject.
I wonder if the trailer makers know what the Static Roll Threshold is for the trailers they design, when loaded in the way they were designed? Are they even tested? Some of them seem very tippy.
The technology exists for the trailer to apply its brakes if it senses the cornering speed is too high. Perhaps it should be included in road going Ag trailers along with telematics to show what the clown behind the wheel was doing?
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Calm ? this lot are probably the biggest bunch of cowboys I have ever seen, yes crap happens anyone can get wheels a bit close to the edge and end up in the ditch, but it takes real morons to totally wreck the trailer getting it out. If they had got a recovery truck out it would have cost money, but the damage would have been minimal.
I bet they can fix that cheaper than it would cost to get a decent size wrecker out to lift it, IF you could get one. Plus they got it off the road before the authorities came and screwed everything up. The trailer was already twisted from going in the ditch.
Some of his drivers are terrible but you work with what you can get.
Andy organises a big company whilst doing a lot of the work himself, he'd be the first one to say he wasn't perfect but I haven't seen many that can work like him.
I do cringe at some of the things they attempt though.
I'm amazed he got that out as easy as they did.
 
What brand of trailer is it? I see redrock is makin thier trailers a bit wider now, wev 2 of them and theyr a real good trailer
It's not exactly the fault of the trailer though is it but yes there could be an issue with trailer design. One thing you never see on wagons is floatation tyres. I'm not saying they should be banned but bigger trailers carrying more weight with bigger wider floatation tyres to enable them to travel on fields maybe don't help with the stability when doing 50/60k down the road when something unexpected happens.
 

Bongodog

Member
It's not exactly the fault of the trailer though is it but yes there could be an issue with trailer design. One thing you never see on wagons is floatation tyres. I'm not saying they should be banned but bigger trailers carrying more weight with bigger wider floatation tyres to enable them to travel on fields maybe don't help with the stability when doing 50/60k down the road when something unexpected happens.
Nothing unexpected happened, they have been charging along foot to the floor through this stretch of road for weeks, it was just a matter of time before one went over. Its a slight left followed by a slight right, plus you enter the 1st bend in a 40 limit and exit the 2nd in a 30. Get the line slightly wrong for bend 1 and hope and pray for bend 2.
Pretoria strike again :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Nothing unexpected happened, they have been charging along foot to the floor through this stretch of road for weeks, it was just a matter of time before one went over. Its a slight left followed by a slight right, plus you enter the 1st bend in a 40 limit and exit the 2nd in a 30. Get the line slightly wrong for bend 1 and hope and pray for bend 2.
Pretoria strike again :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I'm not being specific to any one case just generalising and giving benefit of doubt for some. End of the day drive according to conditions and what's behind you. Stick a heavy trailer with high centre of gravity on big wallowy tyres behind a headless chicken it's no surprise to see them in this thread.
 

Tomr10

Member
He is pretty calm but his son wasn't quite so happy! :D :D
Heard him drop the "F" bomb a few times.

He has one hell of an operation though, and a lot of work to get through.
They seem to be real hard on tackle, and I'm not convinced by the quality of staff he has either.
Arent all dairy farms lol. Yer his son is a bit hot headed
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
I think biggest problem is the way the trailer is fastened to the tractor
the tractor doesn’t take any of the pressure of the trailer rolling about until it’s to late
a artic has the fifth wheel which puts pressure on unit, which makes you the driver feel the swaying earlier so drives more accordingly
most artics only tip over if they get on the soft and it takes it all over
 

britt

Member
BASE UK Member
I think the problem with silage trailers is, that when filled from the side the contents in one side of the trailer has been blasted in densely and other side is much looser as it cascades down. This leaves one side of the trailer much heavier than the other, suspension and soft tyres then compound this imbalance. Add in speed and a corner and over she goes.
A trailer filled from the right will have the advantage on a left hand bend, if the next load is filled from the left the same bend at the same speed will have a very different balance, or imbalance.
 

bumkin

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
pembrokeshire
I think the problem with silage trailers is, that when filled from the side the contents in one side of the trailer has been blasted in densely and other side is much looser as it cascades down. This leaves one side of the trailer much heavier than the other, suspension and soft tyres then compound this imbalance. Add in speed and a corner and over she goes.
A trailer filled from the right will have the advantage on a left hand bend, if the next load is filled from the left the same bend at the same speed will have a very different balance, or imbalance.
most of the silage trailer turn over situations is more haste less speed they just drive too fast yes uneven loading high sides all contribute plus the fact that with the wheels and a ring hitch you have the robin Reliant thing going on
 

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
I think the problem with silage trailers is, that when filled from the side the contents in one side of the trailer has been blasted in densely and other side is much looser as it cascades down. This leaves one side of the trailer much heavier than the other, suspension and soft tyres then compound this imbalance. Add in speed and a corner and over she goes.
A trailer filled from the right will have the advantage on a left hand bend, if the next load is filled from the left the same bend at the same speed will have a very different balance, or imbalance.
Need a silage contractor with a weighbridge to weigh wheels on each side of trailer to get some actual facts on this.
 

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