Clements offering £30 per hour for field workers

I agree its a stunt to pressure goverment for a return to normal.

Wish I could go for a week to see the real situation, I can knock on with a knife, although output is often affected by weather & uniformaty of the crop. I can do 3,200 class I swedes a day so at £240 per day wages about 8p per swede. About 5 ton of white cabbage or best hand picking day of sprouts would be 50 20 pound nets so about £5 per net labour charge.

So who is paying? how can Aldi sell caulie at 59 p. Same week wholesalers selling better larger caulies at £1.40 allbeit for just one week.

So using my sprout picking figures on a record day 25 p per 500g. On sale at every Tesco at Xmas for 29 pence. Its totally nuts.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
We stopped drilling the corners of the beet fields when we realised we were hand pulling, knocking and topping them and they were worth 1p each.
But we sort of enjoyed the exercise and there is always a certain joy in pulling stuff you’ve grown out of the ground.
Packed up the spuds a couple of years ago. Hand picked behind the hoover. Do miss it. But not sure I’d want to bust my back for Mr Big or the supermsrkets
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
But what price would veg have to be.

Whats the game with the 29p veg bags at Christmas. Surely we need to be like USA with a min selling (retail) price?
I honestly couldn’t care less what price it would mean veg had too be… not my problem in fairness… if you wanted me too Wade around in the mud picking cabbages with a man in hiviz watching me with his whip too make sure I wasn’t slacking I’d want paying for it … Iv done half an hour on a grader before when I was waiting too tip and the polish lads were on there break and after half an hour I was honestly considering putting my face in one of the motors
 

Lincoln75

Member
A mate was raving about a plant operator job on HS2 last week at £ ridiculous.00 per hour.
When I pointed out he would be away 6 nights out of 7, and that the wage would take him into a higher tax band, so his take home money was only going to be about a grand higher than what he’s on now.
The end of his rainbow soon faded into reality.
I`ve heard some machine drivers on Hinkley Point are making £80k+ and theres years of work so worth moving there if its your thing.
 

Luke20

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South lincs
I think there are people who will do hard manual labour but not for £8.91 ph , long hours , in crap weather ,very uncomfortable , crap living conditions and so on , you`d have to be a bit simple to do it for £8.91.
Like i said in a different thread Maybe if the supermarkets/big veg firms didn't take the money out of the veg job there would be more small english family farms doing the labour instead of relying so heavily on eastern european workers? I know we would still be growing veg ourselves if we thought it paid and didn't have to jump through hoops for the supermarkets.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Like i said in a different thread Maybe if the supermarkets/big veg firms didn't take the money out of the veg job there would be more small english family farms doing the labour instead of relying so heavily on eastern european workers? I know we would still be growing veg ourselves if we thought it paid and didn't have to jump through hoops for the supermarkets.
Imagine if all the arable farms in the country had 10-15 acres of hand picked veg and it was just a job every now nd then everyone mucked in on and got the pain over and done quickly … oh wait yeah that’s how it used to happen before the big is better approach 🤦‍♂️
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I agree its a stunt to pressure goverment for a return to normal.

Wish I could go for a week to see the real situation, I can knock on with a knife, although output is often affected by weather & uniformaty of the crop. I can do 3,200 class I swedes a day so at £240 per day wages about 8p per swede. About 5 ton of white cabbage or best hand picking day of sprouts would be 50 20 pound nets so about £5 per net labour charge.

So who is paying? how can Aldi sell caulie at 59 p. Same week wholesalers selling better larger caulies at £1.40 allbeit for just one week.
The question is, how much would your best day earn you at that job?
It might only make you minimum wage with their targets.
 

Lincoln75

Member
Like i said in a different thread Maybe if the supermarkets/big veg firms didn't take the money out of the veg job there would be more small english family farms doing the labour instead of relying so heavily on eastern european workers? I know we would still be growing veg ourselves if we thought it paid and didn't have to jump through hoops for the supermarkets.
Maybe /hopefully things will change in your favour , things do seem to have a habit of going full circle.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I honestly couldn’t care less what price it would mean veg had too be… not my problem in fairness… if you wanted me too Wade around in the mud picking cabbages with a man in hiviz watching me with his whip too make sure I wasn’t slacking I’d want paying for it … Iv done half an hour on a grader before when I was waiting too tip and the polish lads were on there break and after half an hour I was honestly considering putting my face in one of the motors
I actually don't mind being on a grading line, its fairly easy work compared to field harvesting veg or running up ladders with buckets of apples on a 30+ degree day.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Imagine if all the arable farms in the country had 10-15 acres of hand picked veg and it was just a job every now nd then everyone mucked in on and got the pain over and done quickly … oh wait yeah that’s how it used to happen before the big is better approach 🤦‍♂️
Everybody grew a few spuds here at one time and as you say it was no big deal hand picking a couple of acres. Then people specialised and got big and greedy ….. and needed lashings of nematocides in close rotations etc. No sympathy to be honest. Squeezed out the small producers then crying when the system they fed squeezes them out.
 
The question is, how much would your best day earn you at that job?
It might only make you minimum wage with their targets.

Quite likely but years of experience I think I'd be hard to beat for speed. As said I would love to apply & go try to see what the reality was.

I have a lot of other enterprises now but for 20 years or so I used to harvest 25 acre of field veg, according to John Nix 10 acre per labour unit. I was packing & delivering to wholesaler too .

The big rigs make the job easier, although if you feel desperate for a pee of course you have to just hang on (remember in winter most people pee quite a lot.)
 
Imagine if all the arable farms in the country had 10-15 acres of hand picked veg and it was just a job every now nd then everyone mucked in on and got the pain over and done quickly … oh wait yeah that’s how it used to happen before the big is better approach 🤦‍♂️

How we are now, although retailing some of the crop.

Very sad that it has changed. I get up 3.30 am off to market, then back cutting veg till 9am, set shop up then off on combine, baler or what ever, then any spraying after tea. With plenty of variety nothing is hard.
 
We had good local carrot growers here but couldn’t compete either. If certain people hadn’t bent over for the supermarkets we’d all be better off. Same with eggs, pork and chickens.

Some big growers cutting back fast now, be interesting to see how this all ends. Goverment grant system very much favoured the larger grower too, in effect subsidy for supermarkets.

Doctors are pushing goverment for cheaper veg too another factor.
 

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