1year old merlo written off because of seized engine!

icanshootwell

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Location
Ross-on-wye
Merlo's depreciate significantly and with the engine and missing hydraulics etc could easily spend £20,000 on it. Its bid at the moment at £20,000 so at £40,000 is probably a safe buy. Get I up towards £50,000 and higher then I would say stay away.
Makes you wonder why would you buy new? a good 2nd hand TH with 4 to 5k hours on the clock 2010 onwards would be 25k, much better imo.
 

Chuckie

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Location
England
Merlo's depreciate significantly and with the engine and missing hydraulics etc could easily spend £20,000 on it. Its bid at the moment at £20,000 so at £40,000 is probably a safe buy. Get I up towards £50,000 and higher then I would say stay away.

It's a wreck. I wouldn't give 10k for it.

The photos and description are a bit lacking I think.
 
Makes you wonder why would you buy new? a good 2nd hand TH with 4 to 5k hours on the clock 2010 onwards would be 25k, much better imo.
This is ours £20k with 5,900 hours and 6 months warranty - we are not a big user but couldn’t be without one.
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Foxcover

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Nothing much, especially if they use the hyd fan and cooling pack of the deutz engine.

Non of the major manufactures seem to want to use perkins any more, look back over the past 30 years when just about everyone used them. Over the years all the major players have moved on. What we should be asking is why have Perkins not done something about it 🤷‍♂️

On the perkins parts supply they have been a shower of :poop: for the past 12 months now. Brexit and covid have nothing to do with it either, it was all there own doing back in oct last year when they shut for 2 weeks to update there computer ordering system. Before this update they were able to supply parts next day, you could track orders, get stock availability and lead times easy, cancel orders if needed.

NOW since oct last year not been able to do any of the above! there aim is to supply parts that they have in stock within 10 days but it often takes longer and god help you if they don't have stock! I've had 2 basic fuel filters on back order for months now! Had some electric lift pumps on back order for 6 or 7 weeks too and all the while your just left hanging, you cant get a firm date on them and you cant cancel the order!

This situation will get worse yet as Perkins are due to move warehouses from Manchester to somewhere near Heathrow around nov/dec this year i think. So there is no chance of things improving with them till Jan/Feb once the dust has settled.

Do you think Caterpillar as the owners are responsible?
 

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Makes me think, would it be rocket science these days to have an engine protection system for loss of oil pressure?
our 575 has a system for that. it's called robomatic. not been able to find any information on it at all on the internet. shuts the engine off if theres low oil or if it overheats. installed because the tractor was (and still is) often left overnight running the drying fan. It works by having an inline solenoid valve that closes off fuel supply to the injector pump, and it works well. Tractor overheated pulling the superflow the other day, the second i spotted steam (the dial was still in the green just) it shut down. Dont know why every tractor isnt fitted with that system!
 

Pennine Ploughing

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Mixed Farmer
our 575 has a system for that. it's called robomatic. not been able to find any information on it at all on the internet. shuts the engine off if theres low oil or if it overheats. installed because the tractor was (and still is) often left overnight running the drying fan. It works by having an inline solenoid valve that closes off fuel supply to the injector pump, and it works well. Tractor overheated pulling the superflow the other day, the second i spotted steam (the dial was still in the green just) it shut down. Dont know why every tractor isnt fitted with that system!
Murphy valve
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
Perkins was one of the major reasons for going Weidemann over Schaffer for me, the previous Manitou’s Perkins did over 12k hours with little trouble.

Some perkins are rebadged😆 perkins common rail engine in the manitou MLT 629 ST3B (rear engine model) is actually a rebadged FPT engine🤭
 

Bongodog

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This situation will get worse yet as Perkins are due to move warehouses from Manchester to somewhere near Heathrow around nov/dec this year i think. So there is no chance of things improving with them till Jan/Feb once the dust has settled.
I always associated Perkins with Peterborough, why would a company with a huge site in Peterborough which after all is well sited to cover much of the UK store its spares in Manchester ?
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
I always associated Perkins with Peterborough, why would a company with a huge site in Peterborough which after all is well sited to cover much of the UK store its spares in Manchester ?

🤷‍♂️ No idea, but that's were they are located at the moment:ROFLMAO: Not being funny but the UK will be a tiny market for a world wide brand like Perkins so a location suited to cover the UK isn't really that important to them, being closer to a big airport will make a lot more sense.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
I had a 629, but it was a 2001 629/120 side engine.

Yeah manitou and there wisdom built a MLT 629 from 1999 to 2002 then around 2015 they built a new totally different model but called it a 629 just to complicate things! Not the first time they have done it either! mid 90's MLT 630 rear engine then in 2003 a MLT 630 side engine :ROFLMAO: :X3:
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
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Would that fit I wonder.

I did see a couple new ones on ebay BUT after a quick google search I wasn't convinced the seller was genuine so didnt go any further with it.

Your one pictured probably could be made to fit, some bits are mounted differently but so long as internals were right it could be made to fit.

I've sorted customer another way now so moved on.👍
 

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