Exfarmer
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Would you consider an application for a job on an intensive livestock farm, from an email out of the blue?
Applicants for an unadvertised job
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I'd give Isabelle Oakshott one but she'd have to keep here political views to herself
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Ask for a CV and make sure references check out before you have them on the place would be what I’d do
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The reason I asked is because Paul Kelly ( Of Kelly's Turkeys) was lambasted in the right wing press for claiming that he could not obtain labour here in the UK to work on his farms. He had apparently ignored an email from a female Journalist ( Isabelle Oakshotte, who is reasonably attractive
) asking for work on his farms.She further claimed that there were no adverts on his website or on the internet, looking for staff, so the implication was that he was lying and it was just remainer propaganda.
However, I would suggest no farmer in his right senses would consider an application out of the blue from person bearing in mind the activities of many of the animal rights groups. This is of course ignoring the fact that this work is very seasonal, for most poultry farms they have a resident core staff then need help in perhaps every 8 weeks for catching, which as we know requires skilled specialist staff .
In fact He was advertising elsewhere which she had missed.
The funny thing is the same paper today is praising him, after he was quoted, that young Brits are workshy!
I think unfortunately nowadays we have to be so careful. Not suggesting in anyway that people are doing anything wrong but we all know how stuff can be edited, taken out of context. We’ve had vet students and even some of them seem to have a bit of bias and make you wonder. If she’s that attractive You might take a chance thoughThe reason I asked is because Paul Kelly ( Of Kelly's Turkeys) was lambasted in the right wing press for claiming that he could not obtain labour here in the UK to work on his farms. He had apparently ignored an email from a female Journalist ( Isabelle Oakshotte, who is reasonably attractive
She further claimed that there were no adverts on his website or on the internet, looking for staff, so the implication was that he was lying and it was just remainer propaganda.
However, I would suggest no farmer in his right senses would consider an application out of the blue from person bearing in mind the activities of many of the animal rights groups. This is of course ignoring the fact that this work is very seasonal, for most poultry farms they have a resident core staff then need help in perhaps every 8 weeks for catching, which as we know requires skilled specialist staff .
In fact He was advertising elsewhere which she had missed.
The funny thing is the same paper today is praising him, after he was quoted, that young Brits are workshy!
we employed a young lad this harvest who contacted me on facebook
we liked him and he was good so maybe a full time job in the future
10/10 for initiative, confidence and drive imo ……. all desirable attributes in employees
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I would agree absolutely , but if you were running a large intensive or actually any livestock operation. We all know even on Arable farms sometimes s**t happens, ie overturned sprayers on roundabouts which does not look good from any viewpoint.
However I would say there is not a livestock farmer in the country, where incidents could be filmed and taken completely out of context, to cast people in a very poor light.
Having seen the activities of anti GM green groups 30 years ago I am very well aware how some people will twist any scenario, to their own ends.
ollie989898
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I don't use facebook and won't. It is a bastion for identity thieves and similar. There is no way I would put personal information on a website like that. There are some very unsavoury people about. I would certainly not use it for company or business reasons either for much the same reasons.
My experience of emailing companies out of the blue asking for employment is that they do not reply to them. A phone call is more urgent and generally gets people to wake up. An email can sit in an unattended mailbox for days, particularly in covid times.
My experience of emailing companies out of the blue asking for employment is that they do not reply to them. A phone call is more urgent and generally gets people to wake up. An email can sit in an unattended mailbox for days, particularly in covid times.
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receiving an unexpected job enquiry
it's either a very keen person, actively looking for a job, and using a novel way,
or, a member of a group, anti farming, and l have had some of them, not nice.
take your risk
it's either a very keen person, actively looking for a job, and using a novel way,
or, a member of a group, anti farming, and l have had some of them, not nice.
take your risk
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Careful choice of words - it was your dirty mind that took it the predictable wayWell you might Jeremy, but I was talking about a job
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I have had issues with a chap taking videos and editing them out of context. It is not nice or helpful to the business.
I would be very careful taking on someone who I didn't know anything about on a livestock farm.
I would be very careful taking on someone who I didn't know anything about on a livestock farm.
Kiss
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12 years ago I called a guy on yell.com told him I couldn’t drive a tractor, he didn’t have a job advertised, the world has changed a lot in those 12 years, but we can’t complain about a labour shortage if we’re not willing to give people a chance!
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this is the problem, you are a 'get on your bike, and look', chap, great, and obviously worked.
the flip side, there are many zealots out there, whose sole aim is to stop us farming, either animals, or 'modern farming', that farmers are suspicious of 'cold calling' people, looking for jobs.
it really is a great pity, things have got to this stage, where suspicion is the first reaction.
the flip side, there are many zealots out there, whose sole aim is to stop us farming, either animals, or 'modern farming', that farmers are suspicious of 'cold calling' people, looking for jobs.
it really is a great pity, things have got to this stage, where suspicion is the first reaction.
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I too, in the distant past have got on my bike and found a job on farms - when I was pre college, no real farming contacts and so on.
One particular chap gave me a chance, aged 17 for the 14 months work that I needed pre-uni.
I always vowed that I would give people a chance too if I ever could. Since the age of 24 when I became an employer I have given dozens of people a chance and rarely regretted it. Now I am 60.
This last year or two, having been royally let down by the 'camera-man' I am afraid that I have stopped trusting people that I didn't know something about beforehand.
That is a shame
kfpben
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I offer lambing positions to applicants who e-Mail me out of the blue BUT we feed them and I always make a point of asking for their dietary requirements beforehand.
Any veggie/vegan applicants might find the position has unfortunately already been filled.
Any veggie/vegan applicants might find the position has unfortunately already been filled.
Kiss
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Could equally be selling yourself short, had a veggie vet student this year who’s mum was a vegan (but had leather seats in her car
) who got stuck in and worked like a trooper having never stepped foot on a dairy farm before, even more daunting slap bang in the middle of calving, better than the meat eater we had after!she did say on the first morning when asked what she wanted for breakfast- same as we were having, didn’t have the heart to keep quiet and drop the bacon on her plate
Guiggs
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30 years ago as a 13 year old lad I wrote half a dozen letters to half a dozen local farms asking if they would like some help at weekends so I could gain some experience, I didn't even want paying.
One wrote back saying they had plenty of staff and good luck, one contacted my dad and told him to tell me to start the following weekend.
4 of them couldn't be bothered to reply and that certainly wasn't because they thought I might start filming anti livestock propaganda films.
I've never forgotten that
One wrote back saying they had plenty of staff and good luck, one contacted my dad and told him to tell me to start the following weekend.
4 of them couldn't be bothered to reply and that certainly wasn't because they thought I might start filming anti livestock propaganda films.
I've never forgotten that
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I had a similar experience 45 years ago.
Sadly I now average 1 a week applying for a position here -almost entirely vet students and pre-vet students. They all want 2 weeks 'work' during which we spend the first week showing them round and the second week re-doing the things they haven't done properly, they require accomodation, transport to and from the station etc.
Very sadly I don't always reply to every one.
We still have about 6 or 7 vet students a year but restrict to locals as it is less tedious for us who are now older and busier than we have ever been.