Can No-till /Regen Agric survive without glyphosate? if not we are DOOMED!! I think it can..

Clive said:

I think we should all stop using it pre harvest, regardless of the science if people don’t want it we are here to produce what they want and without doubt its pre harvest use (and let’s be honest in some cases abuse of harvest interval !) that seeing it turn up in foods tested

we may just hold on to it for establishment purposes that way

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Spoken like a English no tiller . Up here it's definitely a harvest aid in some situations , I'd hate to loose .

I would be happy if they doubled the harvest interval if it helped or put a lower max harvest rate on the can . The stuff needs 2 weeks anyway ime.

jh. said:

Spoken like a English no tiller . Up here it's definitely a harvest aid in some situations , I'd hate to loose .

I would be happy if they doubled the harvest interval if it helped or put a lower max harvest rate on the can . The stuff needs 2 weeks anyway ime.

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To be fair even down in east anglia pre harvest glyphosate can save a huge amount of fuel, cost and quality. I’m quite conflicted on all this.

The biggest benefit of pre harvest is its use on late maturing varieties that are now grown to far north

if we just had more development on early maturing varieties the need would disapear except in weedy poor crops

every variety now grown is later than the first 4 tonne varieties in the 1980s when harvest started a week or more earlier
we always had ripe crops in early august and finished harvest in august

we used to use it, pre harvest, 70's, and it was magic, no green stuff to try and push through the combine, but today, the crops are so much cleaner, it's use for weeds pre harvest, must be less. Up north with shorter days, slightly different.
With crop resistant to round-up, you are edging towards genetic mutation, and, as with gene editing, the gen public have very little knowledge of it, except the constant stream of negative publicity, so from that angle, they have every right to be anti, they have no knowledge of the good side.
GM and GE, are not going away, we have no idea of what the nutty scientists, are playing around with, in their secret labs, probably best not to know ! But world population is growing, we have to be fed, and a lot of positives, are being classed with a lot of negatives, through a simple lack of knowledge, and trust, that view needs to be changed.

DOOMED unless there is an alternative chemical or something with a similar kill efficiency !!!
Cloud cuckoo land springs to mind.

Well really I think that one way or another it amounts to 10 litres of diesel or 4 litres of glyphosate so they need to make their minds up.
It’s a useful tool that we would miss if it went completely, but I wonder if manufacturers are getting a bit cheesed off with being sued and like many of us are getting to the point of saying well stuff it then. Let them starve.