Minette Batters one Question Time tonight.

Chris F · Oct 8, 2021

JP1 said:
True

1. Why give her air time
2. Why not challenge her harder (to be fair the interviewer did start to)

I wonder if she ever starts on the PR line of Tesco or the BRC and then quickly swerves realising she's now driving the RT bus?

I have spoken to her personally and think she got thrown under a bus when she took this position. I don't think she had any clue of what the true state of RT sentiment was. Maybe she should have done more due diligence. But now she is in the role she has the poison chalice of supporting it while trying to make changes. The problem being, the latter is difficult in her role. As we have all seen the RT juggernaut, doesn't care what others think, it just keeps on its own quest.

Its a tough gig right now.

DrWazzock · Oct 8, 2021

Generally what we are seeing now is the closing chapter of the Tories abandonment of primary industries and manufacturing which began in 1980.
If you want any help from the government then best you can hope for is that you they chuck you 20p for a cuppa if you sign your business over to State run environmental works which is all they reallycare about now.
It’s all about looking green and being nice to animals now, while working in financial services, swindling cash out of the plebs. Leave the dirty smelly industries to Johnny Foreigner and import a finished product with a green label on it and don’t enquire as to how it was produced.
All politicians are now drawn from academic / services backgrounds and so that is where their priorities lie.
Eventually a real supply crisis of physical goods or energy might bring about a change but until then we are in for a difficult time as primary producers, livestock in particular.
It’s Goldsmith Princess Nut Nut problem as rightly explained above. Clueless champagne ecologists.

Hilly · Oct 8, 2021

God sake , a lot of agriculture never had it better for decades and moan moan moan , I often wonder what the hell someof you actual want out of life ? Things are what they are , adapt a little get on and just enjoy it.The pesamistis are depressing .

Suffolk Serf · Oct 8, 2021

Chris F said:
That is literally her job in fairness!

Mind you, her predecessor couldn't even be arsed to do that.

ajcc · Oct 8, 2021

@Hilly I agree with this sentiment in measure..... however without belief and trust forewarned is forearmed.
Urban Environmentalism movement is about to push agriculture under a bus.

Hilly · Oct 8, 2021

Just all stop being so fuking pessimistic, it’s ruining this forum . Ffs your not staving you all have food cloths heat and a roof , things could do much worse in th U.K. it has been in the past bunch of spoilt brats the way you go on, count your blessings and carry on , but don’t come here moaning like spoilt babys .

Hjcarter · Oct 8, 2021

Yale said:
You could ask Boris if night was day and he would respond with ‘levelling up will make the whole country equal,about the shining light of Brexit and how labour are on the dark side’,but you wouldn’t get a straight answer…..or any answer.

Perpetual twilight for us all then....

maen · Oct 8, 2021

Pre Brexit the debate was all about being able to export, Lamb etc. Never was there a debate that without the EU ‘stability’ agriculture, and livestock farming in particular, was going to be sacrificed on the Alter of the Green agenda.
Clever politics, concentrate the debate on the possible while not mentioned what the real agenda was going to be.Where did the £250million a day get spent ?

The lack of meat processing staff was always going to be a problem, both pig and poultry, but by not allowing migrants to enter the UK to do these jobs the ‘change’ in direction will be hastened. In the USA, agriculture, would not function without ‘wet backs’ from Mexico. Not because they are necessarily cheap labour but because they are available to work. Germany does similar. Dairy will most certainly be the next target the agenda is already written. Methane, pollution, NVZ, IPPC but wait we always have New Zealand! There will be room for the smaller family farms ( touchy feely for Boris to prat around on a photo call) but industrial dairy, surely not, nasty smelly, polluting bad for cows and the environment. Watch!

Minnette ,in fairness, works hard at the task she has been given but a lot pig and poultry farmers will lose more turnover than Minette has ever had, business wise. She was given the post as a safe pair of hands. The other contender would have been a better matched to the current Tory Party, who are NOT the farmers friend even though their undying support comes from the rural shires. It might be the case of the definition of Farmer as apposed to Landowner who the Tories would most certainly support.
Why would you want to see an intensive livestock enterprise from your HaHa. It might also assist with tenants being ‘encouraged’ to leave the land and landlords taking back what they would consider is rightfully their own.
it could be a long chess game.

SilliamWhale · Oct 8, 2021

Hilly said:
Just all stop being so fuking pessimistic, it’s ruining this forum . Ffs your not staving you all have food cloths heat and a roof , things could do much worse in th U.K. it has been in the past bunch of spoilt brats the way you go on, count your blessings and carry on , but don’t come here moaning like spoilt babys .

I kind of agree. People are not interested in reducing their meat consumption. They like it. No amount of BBC and twitter crap is going to change it

vantage · Oct 8, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
I kind of agree. People are not interested in reducing their meat consumption. They like it. No amount of BBC and twitter crap is going to change it

Absolutely.
Caught the tail end of Dan Wootton’s show , on GB news, as he handed over to Mark Dolan. Dolan was going on about the vegan on “the great British bake off”, Wootton’s responses had me in stitches about meat eating, his and the public’s!

Aspiring Peasants · Oct 8, 2021

JP1 said:
headlines about a long term trends survey saying meat consumption down 17g / 17 % over 15 years (it changed metric half way through the piece).

I heard this and my wife who is a qualified statistician says it is rubbish data. 17 g is equivalent to about 1 chicken nugget (apparently, I've never actually had one) and there is no way they could measure to that degree of accuracy. It quite easily could have been a 17g increase.

The interview was pathetic, she never questioned anything, radio 4 is just a local station for south east based Wokes.

Sheeponfire · Oct 8, 2021

Hilly said:
Just all stop being so fuking pessimistic, it’s ruining this forum . Ffs your not staving you all have food cloths heat and a roof , things could do much worse in th U.K. it has been in the past bunch of spoilt brats the way you go on, count your blessings and carry on , but don’t come here moaning like spoilt babys .

I definitely get what your saying, and agree...
Things are pretty decent in the camp atm...

Am just a little nervous of this urban environment champagne warrior's as someone has so eloquently called them in a post or 2 back

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