Shooting Foxhounds.

betweenthelines · Oct 10, 2021

The farmer's job is to raise and care for livestock, trying to ensure they have the best life possible. It is then the responsibility of others to ensure that the animal's end of life is as painless and stress free as it cab be.

Saying farmers kill animals for a living is rather like saying a pilot causes global warming for a living or a brewer's job is to kill alcoholics.

Bald Rick · Oct 10, 2021

betweenthelines said:
The farmer's job is to raise and care for livestock, trying to ensure they have the best life possible. It is then the responsibility of others to ensure that the animal's end of life is as painless and stress free as it cab be.

Saying farmers kill animals for a living is rather like saying a pilot causes global warming for a living or a brewer's job is to kill alcoholics.

Or a politician to tell the truth

unlacedgecko · Oct 10, 2021

thorpe said:
sorry couldnt put her in the dead bin she would have to be buried on the farm.

i don’t have a farm. Once she’s dead she’s not my dog anymore, just meat.

unlacedgecko · Oct 10, 2021

BrianV said:
The different methods of the animal being put down really makes no difference to the animal involved only to the person watching who has become so detached from the real world, very many animals are killed by other animals with a slow lingering death but we consider that to be fine because it's "natural"!

watch a horse put down by injection become distressed and fight till its last breath, then watch on shot. You’ll soon understand it makes a difference.

JWL · Oct 10, 2021

The last mare we had put down was only a youngster but had real stifle problems, she would have been in pain for the rest of her life with arthritis. The vet who euthanized her hated dropping horses especially youngsters and he wasn't far off retirement. He only did it for us as he couldn't bear anyone else doing it with the right amount of sympathy seeing he had been through the diagnosis etc from the start.
I don't know which one of us were crying the most at the time.

Bald Rick · Oct 10, 2021

If you really want to feel sad .....

Remember this?

Unfortunately the one on the left, who the ranger pictured saved from poachers by prising her off her mother’s back after the mother was shot in the head and reared her, died in his arms last week after years of ill health

That is unconditional love

neilo · Oct 10, 2021

unlacedgecko said:
watch a horse put down by injection become distressed and fight till its last breath, then watch on shot. You’ll soon understand it makes a difference.

Absolutely. I’ve held two of Mrs NeilO’s hunters to be shot by the kennel huntsman too. Again, they were calm until they dropped, the job over in an instant. No strangers or stress involved.

And yes, she did know about it.

Raider112 · Oct 10, 2021

betweenthelines said:
The farmer's job is to raise and care for livestock, trying to ensure they have the best life possible. It is then the responsibility of others to ensure that the animal's end of life is as painless and stress free as it cab be.

Saying farmers kill animals for a living is rather like saying a pilot causes global warming for a living or a brewer's job is to kill alcoholics.

We should all copy that for future use when vegans attack.

Raider112 · Oct 10, 2021

Castle Farm said:
This is a photo from a clip showing a hunt (Duke of Beaufort's Hunt) shooting hounds that are 'to old to hunt anymore. What a sick bunch of evil pricks these scum are.View attachment 990309

Has reading the comments on here changed your view at all?

brigadoon · Oct 10, 2021

thorpe said:
sorry couldnt put her in the dead bin she would have to be buried on the farm.

Got a little grove in a wood for that - when my time comes my ashes go there as well

Castle Farm · Oct 10, 2021

Not one bit Raider.
I have seen what a pack of hounds do to a fox up close. People that take pleasure in causing hurt to humans and animals are called perverts. Right up there with the rest of sub humanity that groom children and trade in drugs and trafficking.What was captured on film on this occasion was the tip of a very large sickening iceberg. If this upsets all you hunt supporters your one step away from being a sick barsteward.
Last year a vixen had raised 4 cubs under an Oak two fields away from my home. I used to go over now and then at dusk and sit under the hedge watching them play. My neighbour told me a few days later that the terrier guys had come over and dug the cubs out, put them in a feed sack and took them away..Probable going to make pets out of them.

Raider112 · Oct 10, 2021

Castle Farm said:
Not one bit Raider.
I have seen what a pack of hounds do to a fox up close. People that take pleasure in causing hurt to humans and animals are called perverts. Right up there with the rest of sub humanity that groom children and trade in drugs and trafficking.What was captured on film on this occasion was the tip of a very large sickening iceberg. If this upsets all you hunt supporters your one step away from being a sick barsteward.
Last year a vixen had raised 4 cubs under an Oak two fields away from my home. I used to go over now and then at dusk and sit under the hedge watching them play. My neighbour told me a few days later that the terrier guys had come over and dug the cubs out, put them in a feed sack and took them away..Probable going to make pets out of them.

First of all I'm not a hunt supporter, there's plenty I don't like about hunts, secondly you are deflecting away from my question, the whole thread is about the shooting of the hounds and prefered methods of putting down dogs, not your prejudices, even though it's your thread the inference was the alleged cruelty shown in the footage.

Bob · Oct 10, 2021

unlacedgecko said:
watch a horse put down by injection become distressed and fight till its last breath, then watch on shot. You’ll soon understand it makes a difference.

The vet obviously did not know what he was doing. We’ve had a number of horses put down over the years injection every time no distress

roscoe erf · Oct 10, 2021

toquark said:
I’ve never been more miserable than when having had to put a good dog to sleep. I still feel the loss of dogs keenly, sometimes years later.

It’s not nice to watch, and it was foolish to be allowed to be filmed, but if you’re in the business of killing animals for a living which many of us are, then you have to tread very carefully when criticising others who do the same.

bloody well said these dogs do not make good pets when they retire

JWL · Oct 10, 2021

Seems that there's a few that have been Disneyfied, life is all fluffy bunnies and talking elephants

CopperBeech · Oct 10, 2021

The OP has never liked the hunt and takes any chance he can to bash them. It wasn’t too long ago he was saying about shooting fox hounds which came onto his ground .............

MRT · Oct 10, 2021

Cowmansam said:
It’s not nice to see

No its not nice. Nor is the end of many/all people from what I have seen. Outside of dignitas anyway.

borderterribles · Oct 10, 2021

CopperBeech said:
The OP has never liked the hunt and takes any chance he can to bash them. It wasn’t too long ago he was saying about shooting fox hounds which came onto his ground .............

Totally agree. I doubt he'd have started this thread in the first place, if he'd have thought it would go the way it has!

CopperBeech · Oct 10, 2021

Jesus wept ..... I’ve just read through this thread. Everyone here is a farmer and a countryman right ? How the hell can do many have so little understanding of the country world and ways around you...... I suppose it’s because being a farmer doesn’t automatically make you a countryman. Happy to attack others amongst us, whilst hoping no one attacks us, and complain when they do ?

I spend a lot of time with hounds, have a lot of friends in hunt service..... and farm surrounding a hunt kennels with both a pack of fox hounds and beagles at which my good friend is kennel huntsman. He spends every day with those hounds, knows them far better than we do our stock and gives them the very best care he can, right to the end.

Ive not watched the video and I’m not saying the lad in it should have let himself be filmed and I’m not saying he went about it right, as within anything there are good, and bad, better and worse. We’ve alll seen the videos of some pig farms, dairy units etc and thought they should hang their head in shame and yet we don’t condemn the industry.

Not all are huntsmen who blow the huntsman horn.

But I find it deeply saddening that so many farmers seem to have no understanding or support for the hunt in any way shape or form. And yet at the same time feel deeply saddened that in many parts of the country the hunt is now a pantomime followed by fools on horse back who like a jump or two.

Hopefully it will never die, our country would be a far sadder place if it did. Remember, tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire......

MRT · Oct 10, 2021

Oliveau said:
Both of my Alsatians have been put down by vets on a home call - very quiet and quick. The first on was done in the garden while I held her and I started to cry as she slipped away. Once the vet was sure she was gone he just quietly walked away and left me to grieve.

PTS several of these in my time for others and my own and its horrendous, something about a dog that will stand between your family and a threat

unlacedgecko said:
watch a horse put down by injection become distressed and fight till its last breath, then watch on shot. You’ll soon understand it makes a difference.

Seen both methods go wrong

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