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Open lies about dairy farming
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jimmer
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- East Devon
betweenthelines
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Californias problem is that it eventually returns nowhere near their water catchment. Lakes Mead and Powell are nearly dry.
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California also uses a lot of aquifers which are slowly drying up.
Apparently also takes 15000 litres to produce 1kg of meat
Apparently also takes 15000 litres to produce 1kg of meat
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Another thing I’ve thought of, when our cows are culled and go into burgers etc, surely that should be zero carbon, as all the carbon that cow has produced in her lifetime has been accounted for in her milk???
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Erm, I applaud your plans to write and complain, but please also write to those who have a statutory duty to regulate and make sure reporting is accurate:
Section five: Due impartiality and due accuracy
This section of the Broadcasting Code relates to the concept of
www.ofcom.org.uk
Cows themselves are zero net carbon emissions anyway and don't you let anyone tell you different.
If cows were going to fry the fecking planet they would have done so hundreds/thousands of years ago.
Why folk, even some farmers can't bloody well see this I don't know.
Surely 9 tonnes of water per pound.
20 tonnes of water per kilo.
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Oh yes, I know, every barsteward seems to have forgotten the carbon cycle, unless your are talking about RHI and wood pellets bloody burners!
Cows 'n grass
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Maybe the government hate us a tiny bit less today
Are these U.S.A. gallons i.e. six U.K. pints or U.K. gallons, eight U.K. pints?
betweenthelines
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Think the comments about tourism and travel were of more concern to the powers that be.
Upsetting a few farmers is one thing, upsetting the 21st Century jet set is far more risky.
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Contrails: How tweaking flight plans can help the climate
Why experts say cutting contrails costs less than $1bn a year but may be worth so much more.
www.bbc.co.uk
Tweek your flights but give up dairy, unbelievable
ollie989898
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There is no way you will see a seismic shift in diet across the planet that sees people avoiding animal products in favour of plant based diets. Half the world's population do not yet have unrestricted access to meat, eggs or dairy products so I can't see they will be told they can't ever have them.
Is there scope for making livestock production more environmentally friendly? Undoubtedly so. In fact, it is possible some kinds of system will disappear forever, but this is no different to the changes the industry has shifted through for the last 100 years.
Is there scope for making livestock production more environmentally friendly? Undoubtedly so. In fact, it is possible some kinds of system will disappear forever, but this is no different to the changes the industry has shifted through for the last 100 years.
Two things.
1. Re original post
If it needs 628 litres of tap water to produce 1 litre of milk here in the UK everyone in the industry would be bankrupt. 628 litres is 0.628 cubic meters of water. WaterPlus charge (and I am sure all the other robbing water companies are similar) £1.67 per cubic meter so that would be a water cost of £1.05 per litre of milk! I don't think so.
2. Vegans
When told by my trendy vegan niece that dairy farmers were ruining the environment my response was to take a look at the packet of the "healthy and environmentally friendly" vegan concoction she was consuming. It contained large quantities of palm fat and soya. When I asked her why do they need to chop down Indonesian rain forests to grow her palm and South American rain forest to grow her soya her answer was "it is vegan so it must be good for the planet".
1. Re original post
If it needs 628 litres of tap water to produce 1 litre of milk here in the UK everyone in the industry would be bankrupt. 628 litres is 0.628 cubic meters of water. WaterPlus charge (and I am sure all the other robbing water companies are similar) £1.67 per cubic meter so that would be a water cost of £1.05 per litre of milk! I don't think so.
2. Vegans
When told by my trendy vegan niece that dairy farmers were ruining the environment my response was to take a look at the packet of the "healthy and environmentally friendly" vegan concoction she was consuming. It contained large quantities of palm fat and soya. When I asked her why do they need to chop down Indonesian rain forests to grow her palm and South American rain forest to grow her soya her answer was "it is vegan so it must be good for the planet".
Spudley
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I'm halfway through the book "Sacred Cow" which is all about arguing against the claims that eating meat is unhealthy, bad for the environment, and unethical. Very interesting and well written
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- God's side of the border.
This one was quite a balanced take on the arguments.
Cowabunga
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1. All the water my cows consume is mains water, and that does for all the farm's water requirement. So you are correct. Their figure on water consumption per litre is just more absolute drivel. Complete twaddle.
2. That's the plainest example of a person with The Dunning-Kruger Effect that anyone could find.