Water pipe under road

Why not do it yourself?
Medium pressure gas main and fibre optic make it quite risky.
the gas should be 4 ft cover so just push a pipe under the road and above the gas above with the digger
Agreed but the gas main has been replaced since the Victorians installed my water pipe. There is no guaranteed of any space between the two.
Maybe feed some high tensile through the metal pipe first. If the pipe breaks you can drag bigger cable through until you can attach the alkathene.
Tried to pull out a short section of the same pipe a few years ago, either the pipe broke apart or the steel cable broke or we could not pull it!
How big is the pipe that's already there? You might be able to shove an alkathene pipe down the inside of it.
1 1/4 galv, heavily lime scaled. Need min 50mm alkathene.
What's the old pipe, metal ?
The best solution could be video showing the sewage pipe replacement, does anyone know a firm that does that.?
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Need to replace our private supply under a B road. Cannot mole as there is a medium pressure gas main in the middle of the road.
Can any one recommend a company to dig up the road. SN6 area ideally or a national company with local depots.
I am sure there are plenty with Irish names but I'd like one who won't cock it up!

TIA
OG
Is your water pipe above, or below the gas main then?
 

sheepwise

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Location
SW Scotland
Certainly worth a try, you will need licence to dig road, lights etc, looking at several K.
again another option. Pipe would need a chamfer passed down first to remove old sediment
Contractor dug a twin wall pipe across a B road for us this spring to allow us to access land on other side with umbilical slurry. All done with council consent/licences, traffic lights,etc. Cost £1400 all in, not as expensive as many think.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Contractor dug a twin wall pipe across a B road for us this spring to allow us to access land on other side with umbilical slurry. All done with council consent/licences, traffic lights,etc. Cost £1400 all in, not as expensive as many think.
Local council here charged £750 licence to mole a road 15 years ago, no idea price today.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Local council here charged £750 licence to mole a road 15 years ago, no idea price today.
Surprised that a licence was needed, but I guess it will depend greatly on the road classification?

I have heard of moles being pushed through/under country roads, out of sight, out of mind. 2m hole either side and mole through... Not cheap mind, based on the prices quoted to mole a 33k power cable under our farm track earlier this year! We agreed on a trench, or rather, I did... ;)
 

CPF

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Arable Farmer
We used this company with western power to put ducting below a river it went deep and guided . It went down then straight then came up on the other side and we put in water pipe in as well, all we had to do was to dig two small holes
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Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Surprised that a licence was needed, but I guess it will depend greatly on the road classification?

I have heard of moles being pushed through/under country roads, out of sight, out of mind. 2m hole either side and mole through... Not cheap mind, based on the prices quoted to mole a 33k power cable under our farm track earlier this year! We agreed on a trench, or rather, I did... ;)
A licence is required to place any “apparatus “ under any road. Whether by driving or cut and cover. It is arguable that any farmer who owns both sides should not need one as he owns the subsoil of the road too.
However haveing a licence protects his pipe, cable etc. From damage by future roadworks if these should cause damage.
We never questioned the need, for thrustboring our irrigation pipes through as their was both a large watermain and a very big telecoms cable damaging which could have been hugely expensive. The licence specifies and identifies the nature of cables in the vicinity and the depth they should be at. If you make contact where they should not be , that is their fault
 

Old Tup

Member
I’ve known of scaffold pipes pushed under roads to put water mains through.not as big as job as you would think with a digger
nick…
Had a go at this caper….without the digger…welting it with a sledgehammer..Larger pointed end on it to help with penetration and friction.
First effort appeared up through the middle of the road…second effort went off deep…
Got there in the end …..18”” deep on the starting side nearly 4ft on the other….
soon as the pipe hits a sizeable stone that’s it off course.
Gas Pipe complicates things enormously…..if it is a plastic pipe….it probably won’t be around to be held accountable if you pierced it.
 

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