Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

neilo · Oct 28, 2021

livestock 1 said:
What happened that bad year was hoggs in general were a bad trade so folks kept a lot back and thought weight would cure the job resulting in a general higher percentage of heavy hoggs coming forward
I remember a lot being sold on from finishers to other finishers sold by the wagon load per kilo
Not long after they lifted a fair bit

How late? I don’t sell any hoggs until April, and there was certainly still a £100 ceiling all through April.

They should all be sold by Christmas anyway, or it just holds the Spring lamb price down…..

Hawthorn · Oct 28, 2021

neilo said:
Do you not think heavy hoggs might be overdone by all these folks jumping on the bandwagon expecting a repeat of last year?

3 years ago, heavy hoggs were on fire, mostly due to short numbers. The following year, every man and his dog kept hoggs back, the job was overdone, especially the heavyweights. The result was a ceiling price of about £100/had, regardless of weight, for everything apart from the very best. Those bigger stores bought would have left a very big hole I suspect.

Not now in the run up to Xmas if the turkey shortage is to be believed then the red meat sector should see a slight lift,

I agree though that the teg job could be over cooked in March with a lot of folks thinking it could be a flyer when In actual fact the large number of Tegs that have been bought put out to graze out in preparation for it will dampen the trade

livestock 1 · Oct 28, 2021

neilo said:
How late? I don’t sell any hoggs until April, and there was certainly still a £100 ceiling all through April.

They should all be sold by Christmas anyway, or it just holds the Spring lamb price down…..

Not this again!!!
I think it was well through April when they lifted
I remember some dealers and finishers dumping out of hoggs that were almost done getting a bit upset as they sold them early and panicked a bit

Hawthorn · Oct 28, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Not this again!!!
I think it was well through April when they lifted
I remember some dealers and finishers dumping out of hoggs that were almost done getting a bit upset as they sold them early and panicked a bit

I think it was May when they really jumped as the heavies went short

livestock 1 · Oct 28, 2021

Hawthorn said:
I think it was May when they really jumped as the heavies went short

Usual case where they say they don’t want them and then they go up a lump

neilo · Oct 28, 2021

Hawthorn said:
Not now in the run up to Xmas if the turkey shortage is to be believed then the red meat sector should see a slight lift,

I agree though that the teg job could be over cooked in March with a lot of folks thinking it could be a flyer when In actual fact the large number of Tegs that have been bought put out to graze out in preparation for it will dampen the trade

Yes, I’d sooner be looking at a field full of lambs currently, than a field full of turkeys.

I’m doing my bit, keeping fewer hoggs back and keep on selling them finished steadily while prices are were they are. A lift before December would make it better still.

Hawthorn · Oct 28, 2021

Lamb trade looks like it’s about to go up a gear now. Needs to with some of the store lamb prices paid lately

livestock 1 · Oct 28, 2021

neilo said:
Yes, I’d sooner be looking at a field full of lambs currently, than a field full of turkeys.

I’m doing my bit, keeping fewer hoggs back and keep on selling them finished steadily while prices are were they are. A lift before December would make it better still.

A yes an honourable man keeping less hoggs!!!
Suffering for the benefit of the collective!
Crikey you will be selling live next and speaking to the auctioneers!!!

Skintagain · Oct 28, 2021

By heck there’s gunna be some hoggs about this March and April. I have never seen as many random people with a field full of stores

neilo · Oct 28, 2021

livestock 1 said:
A yes an honourable man keeping less hoggs!!!
Suffering for the benefit of the collective!
Crikey you will be selling live next and speaking to the auctioneers!!!

I started my ‘smalls’ (everything <36kg) on turnips yesterday. That group of 130 didn’t look many.
Grass all but disappearing now, so hopper went out to start another mob nibbling. Most are 40kg+ and fit already, so won’t eat much before they’re gone, but will keep them trickling on as the weather turns.

They’ve been going live for a couple of weeks. Email came yesterday suspending me from my Tesco contract.

Just because · Oct 28, 2021

Skintagain said:
By heck there’s gunna be some hoggs about this March and April. I have never seen as many random people with a field full of stores

Or will they panic soon as trade has a lift and sell or when we get a bad weather spell ?

Anymulewilldo · Oct 28, 2021

neilo said:
Do you not think heavy hoggs might be overdone by all these folks jumping on the bandwagon expecting a repeat of last year?

3 years ago, heavy hoggs were on fire, mostly due to short numbers. The following year, every man and his dog kept hoggs back, the job was overdone, especially the heavyweights. The result was a ceiling price of about £100/had, regardless of weight, for everything apart from the very best. Those bigger stores bought would have left a very big hole I suspect.

Yes, very true. But I was meaning the lambs that will finish at 42kg in spring against the rabbits that will be 35-37kg. I’ve never understood the “buy big stores abd leave them until they are 55kg” theory.

Anymulewilldo · Oct 28, 2021

Hawthorn said:
I think it was May when they really jumped as the heavies went short

Yeah, we were down too the last 500 before they started leaving real profit that year. That was the last year we fed mule wethers in any great numbers. It was the blackies that pulled us through so I swapped too more of them the year after.

Anymulewilldo · Oct 28, 2021

Skintagain said:
By heck there’s gunna be some hoggs about this March and April. I have never seen as many random people with a field full of stores

I reckon February will be the glut month. That’s when everyone starts too panic that these hoggs have too go or we will have no grass come spring. With Hogg finisher heading for £300/t+ those that aren’t dedicated too the game will be outing them then.

JSmith · Oct 28, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Usual case where they say they don’t want them and then they go up a lump

Seems like the heavies are wanted at the minute down our way

livestock 1 · Oct 28, 2021

JSmith said:
View attachment 994007Seems like the heavies are wanted at the minute down our way

It’s not really a problem that I EVER have
If I did I would be over the moon

JSmith · Oct 28, 2021

livestock 1 said:
It’s not really a problem that I EVER have
If I did I would be over the moon

I know what you mean, my small bank account is always ready before the lambs get heavy

Chae1 · Oct 28, 2021

Skintagain said:
By heck there’s gunna be some hoggs about this March and April. I have never seen as many random people with a field full of stores

We are one of those random people! Bought around 700 store lambs. Number dropping though as keep dying.

Not selling them too quickly, need to get the good of all that expensive rappa fencing gear first.

andybk · Oct 28, 2021

Chae1 said:
We are one of those random people! Bought around 700 store lambs. Number dropping though as keep dying.

Not selling them too quickly, need to get the good of all that expensive rappa fencing gear first.

have they been vaxed ?

Northeastfarmer · Oct 28, 2021

neilo said:
They’ve been going live for a couple of weeks. Email came yesterday suspending me from my Tesco contract.

What a day to be alive.
Hope you’re having a party tonight

Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

0 %

Up to 25%

25-50%

50-75%

75-100%

100% I’ve had enough of farming!

Share this page