Are you all depressed ?

Does anyone else ever wonder what on earth else you would do if you just jacked in and sold the whole lot? You’d be very comfortable but would still need some form of income if your young.

I was just browsing the other night and a local parcel company were paying £201 per day (9 hours a day) for a man and van. The contract was permanent not Xmas based.

That’s 4K a month in your own account for a Monday to Friday job.
Then you start thinking would I actually be happy? That’s the scary part. Fear of change!

You could surely earn £200 a day driving a tractor or plant though?
 

Jhabc

Member
Does anyone else ever wonder what on earth else you would do if you just jacked in and sold the whole lot? You’d be very comfortable but would still need some form of income if your young.

I was just browsing the other night and a local parcel company were paying £201 per day (9 hours a day) for a man and van. The contract was permanent not Xmas based.

That’s 4K a month in your own account for a Monday to Friday job.
Then you start thinking would I actually be happy? That’s the scary part. Fear of change!
It's not a fear of change. It's about a quality of life and quite frankly sitting in a van for 9 hours a day would be less comfortable/desirable than not earning an extra 4 k per month and sitting in traffic jams and joining the Rat race.
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
It must be very hard for those of you who are farmers and farm managers to try and turn a blind eye to all the bad press that agriculture is getting whether it be for ruining the countryside (absolute rubbish), being a major contributor to global warming ( highly exaggerated), poor animal welfare (isolated cases) etc etc.
In my farming career I am sure that agriculture has never been attacked by the media like it is now.
I am sure many of you who can afford to sell up and finance your retirement will quite understandably be giving it consideration.
To those of you who are at the other age of the spectrum in your 30’s and 40’s, what do think of all the flack agriculture is getting from the media, especially those of you who are livestock/dairy farmers.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It must be very hard for those of you who are farmers and farm managers to try and turn a blind eye to all the bad press that agriculture is getting whether it be for ruining the countryside (absolute rubbish), being a major contributor to global warming ( highly exaggerated), poor animal welfare (isolated cases) etc etc.
In my farming career I am sure that agriculture has never been attacked by the media like it is now.
I am sure many of you who can afford to sell up and finance your retirement will quite understandably be giving it consideration.
To those of you who are at the other age of the spectrum in your 30’s and 40’s, what do think of all the flack agriculture is getting from the media, especially those of you who are livestock/dairy farmers.

to be honest it feels like nothing new to me, 25 years since I start farming and have felt under attack that entire time. Egg scares, BSE scares, ripping out hedges, cutting down trees, freeloading subsidies, polluting water, killing birds, ,hedgehogs ……. Plus much more I’ve forgotten I’m sure


it’s a entire generation since farmers were not the bad guys, It’s also pretty obvious this is all no coincidence, its all been engineered by big clever well funded PR distracting attention from the real issues / industries that cause many of these problems

what don’t kill you makes you stronger though they say !
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
to be honest it feels like nothing new to me, 25 years since I start farming and have felt under attack that entire time. Egg scares, BSE scares, ripping out hedges, cutting down trees, freeloading subsidies, polluting water, killing birds, ,hedgehogs ……. Plus much more I’ve forgotten I’m sure


it’s a entire generation since farmers were not the bad guys, It’s also pretty obvious this is all no coincidence, its all been engineered by big clever well funded PR distracting attention from the real issues / industries that cause many of these problems

what don’t kill you makes you stronger though they say !
Fortunately I think when we are/we’re young and hopefully think we are going to set the world on fire, we are so busy trying to carry it out that we turn a blind eye to things that perhaps we take more to heart as we get older.
Especially when we got married and have a wife that keeps us on our toes;);)
Side note.
You think you know eem , till your married to eem.”
A farmer told me that and oh so very true !!
 
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Renaultman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
I'm kind of losing the will.

Think it's a combination of time of year, fert prices and negativity towards agriculture.

Away with family in Edinburgh for a few days is taking mind of things.

Spring always brings a shift in mindset.
Horrible time of year for me, nights getting longer, clocks go back at the weekend, just got to think, in the blink of an eye it will be December and the shortest day, always a key point for me as every day gets a bit longer from then, another blink of an eye and it will be spring.
 
Horrible time of year for me, nights getting longer, clocks go back at the weekend, just got to think, in the blink of an eye it will be December and the shortest day, always a key point for me as every day gets a bit longer from then, another blink of an eye and it will be spring.
About 8 weeks from clocks going back to shortest day but about 12 weeks after that until they go forward again, that I find a long wait
 
Location
N Yorks
Just stumbled on this thread.

Pig prices and feed prices
Not being able to move pigs
Being demonised for being a farmer by all manner of uneducated people, some of who are even friends and family
Poor farm performance
Inability to motivate staff
Staff retention issues
Red tractor audits
Tenant issues (all staff houses)
Neighbour disputes (mud on road etc)
Staff might leave mud on road but not think to sort the mess
Poachers, illegal cars driving round crops. Do we lock gates that then get smashed?
Health and safety risks
Staff not following health and safety but me still being liable
EA saying dont spread muck in the autumn
Not having enough storage to keep till spring but not being able to afford the cost of complying with rules that we dont know about yet
Not being there for the family but knowing i have to get the work done
Having our holidays destroyed by staff leaving, then children getting covid, then thinking about cost


The list goes on and on......

Most of my stresses chip away and leave me with that downtrodden feeling that we see the negative in everything. But i see that as just being a farmer- slightly miserable

When i'm asked about my day i list the sh!t that has gone wrong. A good day means that i have no sh!t to talk about.

I'm convinced i'm autistic because that explains best how i see the world and probably how other people see me

If i'm on a tractor drilling, spraying etc on my own i feel better
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Some idiot left hooked me on my bike yesterday, hit the ground head first , he then drive over my front wheel and buckle it , then get out of his car and rant at me that it was my fault, I should have stopped in A cycle lane and let him cut in front of me
Anyway when you miss near death you realise nothing much really matter s
And no I'm not depressed, I just found another race wheel for 30 quid and good to go Saturday
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Horrible time of year for me, nights getting longer, clocks go back at the weekend, just got to think, in the blink of an eye it will be December and the shortest day, always a key point for me as every day gets a bit longer from then, another blink of an eye and it will be spring.
That has made me really depressed . I’ve some machinery load dismantle and containerise. We’ve got a loading date on the 21st of November so i have to come and do it.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I've been lucky enough to have a bit of a family holiday recently with lockdown restrictions ending and I've also spent a lot more time with none farming friends and reduced my time talking farming online a fair bit. After a period where that has been hard to do it's easy to forget just how important such breaks and time away are for mental health and wellbeing. Time to rest and reflect and enjoy life rather than simpy "get through" it

What has REALLY struck me in that time is that pretty much all farmers are utterly miserable, down / negative on pretty much everything, anything and everyone

This despite being one of the groups least affected by covid 19 and its restrictions, living in the relative freedom of the beautiful British countryside and enjoying some of the best prices we have seen in quite some time, even the weather hasn't been so terrible recently!


It's like when individuals are suffering from proper clinical depression, there is just nothing you can say or do that they will not find the problem with. This forum and Twitter overflow with negativity. I swear if every farmer in the UK was offered a £100k bonus tomorrow the news would be met with skepticism and many would find a way to say it was probably a bad thing !


I really think things have been so bad, for so long, for so many that most of this industry is damaged and has forgotten how to smile ?


Does UK ag need some collective counseling to snap us out of this spiral of depression ? how does an entire industry drag itself out of negativity ?

Maybe it all starts individually ? maybe ask yourself if you could benefit from some help ? Suicide rates in Farmings are shocking, is this why ? Is the problem maybe not everyone and everything else but maybe us ?
Why do you use the word us when it's a select few ?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
What did the road markings tell you/ him to do?
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I was in the red cycle lane along side him , he turned left I had no where to go due to the railings so hit his front wheel and came of as he turned in
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Most if not all humans have a moan , it's a form of destressing , depression is more likely if you don't have a good moan
The avarage person moans 10.000 mins a year , so not just farmers
Agree , if things are not good ...better out than in, shows an 'honest awareness' as well i guess, mind you its not good to moan too much / all the time as that will pull everyone including yerself down
 

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