Slurry Storage

woodylane

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Location
Lancashire
Just pricing up options for 3000m3 of storage, steel tank with a roof is coming out near £175k!!! Although I think this is the best option for future proofing the farm, what does everyone else think? Other option is a lagoon with a steel portal frame over the top. Not keen on floating covers but maybe I’m mistaken. Bedding on sawdust on mats.

any thoughts please??
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Just pricing up options for 3000m3 of storage, steel tank with a roof is coming out near £175k!!! Although I think this is the best option for future proofing the farm, what does everyone else think? Other option is a lagoon with a steel portal frame over the top. Not keen on floating covers but maybe I’m mistaken. Bedding on sawdust on mats.

any thoughts please??
Portal frame won't be adequate.

Have you priced a concrete ring. It's inflation I don't think has been quite so bad.

Also as you increase a round store M2 cost significantly decrease. Your 3000 store has an approximate diameter of 86m. I quoted for 5000m3 in the spring and it's diameter was 112. So another 28 m of perimeter gets you 2000m3 of storage.
Another advantage of round stores is mines base area was 998 m and we got it under a 28 day permitted planning rather than full planning.
 

woodylane

Member
Location
Lancashire
Portal frame won't be adequate.

Have you priced a concrete ring. It's inflation I don't think has been quite so bad.

Also as you increase a round store M2 cost significantly decrease. Your 3000 store has an approximate diameter of 86m. I quoted for 5000m3 in the spring and it's diameter was 112. So another 28 m of perimeter gets you 2000m3 of storage.
Another advantage of round stores is mines base area was 998 m and we got it under a 28 day permitted planning rather than full planning.
It was a 26.5x5.5m store not priced concrete but will give Craven a ring, thanks
 

early riser

Member
Location
Up North
Is there any guidance ANYWHERE ? As to what rules and regulations are to be imposed and exactly when ?

To echo what @pappuller said, no.

In the past few months I have spoken to various people within the EA, Natural England and Catchment Sensitive Farming and none of them can tell me any specifics of what they want/what is required.

They just don’t seem to understand that if they expect us to invest a six figure sum on storage, and get the relevant structures through planning etc in time for the supposed Slurry Investment Scheme, then we need to know what we are doing NOW
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yeah that’s certainly the cheapest but if they’re not allowed in a few years then it’ll be back to the tank option and the my won’t have gone down in price.
Earth banked lagoons will never be banned, there is probably 80% of the country’s slurry stores in a soil bank lagoon… worse case senario dig a hole and put a plastic liner in it…
 

Ducati899

Member
Location
north dorset
Unlikely a steel frame building covered lagoon would be enough for future proofing?

Had my catchment sensitive officer out and he wouldn’t give approval for a steel frame over my lagoon because by 2027 they think it will not be acceptable,but I believe other counties are still doing them
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Earth banked lagoons will never be banned, there is probably 80% of the country’s slurry stores in a soil bank lagoon… worse case senario dig a hole and put a plastic liner in it…
Earth banked lagoons WILL be banned unless they have an approved impermeable to gas cover.
I think the slurry investment scheme guidance has been delayed because they don't know the answer.
How you cover and stir an earth lagoon I do not know.

The straw cover would be a nice idea but on separated liquid how thick is that mat going to have to be so it's not all blown to one side in the wind.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Earth banked lagoons WILL be banned unless they have an approved impermeable to gas cover.
I think the slurry investment scheme guidance has been delayed because they don't know the answer.
How you cover and stir an earth lagoon I do not know.

The straw cover would be a nice idea but on separated liquid how thick is that mat going to have to be so it's not all blown to one side in the wind.
I bet your one of them conspiracy nuts that’s been convinced that splash plates will be banned soon for the last 20 years too aren’t you 😂
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
I bet your one of them conspiracy nuts that’s been convinced that splash plates will be banned soon for the last 20 years too aren’t you 😂
We will just have to wait a couple of years and see. With this govt I can't see much relief for agriculture likely on environmental regulations.
The current statements are environmental permitting for all dairy farms to remain in business 2027 and that will need a covered store.
Up until now it has always been talk of a splash plate ban but the date is now 2025.
You have to remember for every dairy farm the govt shuts down it significantly reduces UK methane emissions so it can meet other targets.
One of us will be proved right. But at least I have a plan to still be a dairy farmer in 2028 if I'm right. I'm just not going to spend the money until I'm 95% certain. But I have the planning etc in place to order tomorrow if required.
 
Location
Cheshire
It was a 26.5x5.5m store not priced concrete but will give Craven a ring, thanks
Same price as steel 4 years ago, plenty of advantages for concrete for me, TP Metcalf did a superb installation for us.

I’m not covering it until I have to, the way I see it, they’re unlikely to grant aid tanks, but they should do covers when they decide what they want.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
I bet your one of them conspiracy nuts that’s been convinced that splash plates will be banned soon for the last 20 years too aren’t you 😂
Government consultation already out up here to ban splash plates for contractors and farms with over 200 cows from 2022, total ban from 2025
 

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