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Got a chance of some poultry manure from a multi tier free range unit firstly what levels of N P and K will be in it and what will it be worth?
Thats the trouble with it now id say.The absurdity of the 'new' EA rules on spreading are a real cause for concern. Pretty much only on OSR in autumn. If you don't grow spring crops, what you going to spread it on? The N loading is restrictive. In my case I have to export half my poultry, even before the newly enforced rules. In theory I should export most of it, then buy in bagged PandK, that's how ridiculous it is. The nutrient value is high but no one will pay the real price of them.
That was a really interesting webinar, I learned a lot. Thanks for posting.AHDB did a webinar about it a few evenings ago. There's some breakdowns of costings of different manures in there (which I reckon are ridiculously optimistic!)
https://register.gotowebinar.com/re...7003768324880&type=ATTENDEEEMAILRECORDINGLINK
I keep thinking the same and I’m not sure it’s particularly practical but I’ve been spreading muck on autumn cover crops after drilling just to get them drilled ASAP then muck it after when we’ve got time and it’s been fine. I think to do it in the spring we would need a double axle spreader with wheels under the spreader and horizontal beaters and spreading discs but at 28m even with black muck we would need to run between the tramlinesThat was a really interesting webinar, I learned a lot. Thanks for posting.
It still didn't answer how I am to ever get rid of my muck though - mustn't spread in the autumn now or the N will leach and mustn't spread in the spring if the soil is wet or all the phosphate will will leach.
It didn't mention that in the spring you will destroy the soil structure by spreading muck and by then will be too late to drill any spring crop as the moisture will already be gone so it won't germinate or at best be far too late to yield anything at all.
Hmm
It didn't mention that in the spring you will destroy the soil structure by spreading muck and by then will be too late to drill any spring crop as the moisture will already be gone so it won't germinate or at best be far too late to yield anything at all.
Hmm
and what about the gateways and headlands? I did a bit of well rotted on spring barley the other year during a drought, luckily the field is one spreader full long and there is a hard track down the side.I keep thinking the same and I’m not sure it’s particularly practical but I’ve been spreading muck on autumn cover crops after drilling just to get them drilled ASAP then muck it after when we’ve got time and it’s been fine. I think to do it in the spring we would need a double axle spreader with wheels under the spreader and horizontal beaters and spreading discs but at 28m even with black muck we would need to run between the tramlines
Free to take away here, as much as you can take, loader and diesel providedGot a chance of some poultry manure from a multi tier free range unit firstly what levels of N P and K will be in it and what will it be worth?
Waste of time, u need to work it inand what about the gateways and headlands? I did a bit of well rotted on spring barley the other year during a drought, luckily the field is one spreader full long and there is a hard track down the side.
Biggest problem - little bits of muck getting stuck on the lifters and knife points at harvest leading to all sorts of bother with bulldozing.
My combine man is against pursuing this project further.
Worked well for us, spreading pig fym 24m. Even did one lot a 2nd time but at a lighter application x 2 which resulted in good even spreadand what about the gateways and headlands? I did a bit of well rotted on spring barley the other year during a drought, luckily the field is one spreader full long and there is a hard track down the side.
Biggest problem - little bits of muck getting stuck on the lifters and knife points at harvest leading to all sorts of bother with bulldozing.
My combine man is against pursuing this project further.
how so?on the surface is where the worms want itWaste of time, u need to work it in
Only just seen this reply. I can’t imagine that it could give that much bother to the combine. Was the barley very flat? What sort of spreader did you use?and what about the gateways and headlands? I did a bit of well rotted on spring barley the other year during a drought, luckily the field is one spreader full long and there is a hard track down the side.
Biggest problem - little bits of muck getting stuck on the lifters and knife points at harvest leading to all sorts of bother with bulldozing.
My combine man is against pursuing this project further.
The absurdity of the 'new' EA rules on spreading are a real cause for concern. Pretty much only on OSR in autumn. If you don't grow spring crops, what you going to spread it on? The N loading is restrictive. In my case I have to export half my poultry, even before the newly enforced rules. In theory I should export most of it, then buy in bagged PandK, that's how ridiculous it is. The nutrient value is high but no one will pay the real price of them.
Got a chance of some poultry manure from a multi tier free range unit firstly what levels of N P and K will be in it and what will it be worth?
I use a Ktwo spreader, it was spreading the very well rotted muck well and shredding it into tiny bits.Only just seen this reply. I can’t imagine that it could give that much bother to the combine. Was the barley very flat? What sort of spreader did you use?