Cowabunga
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You sound more like an idiot with every post you make. Why do that to yourself?
To mask up or not?
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Y Fan Wen
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- N W Snowdonia
Type 'iron lung' into Google and then click on 'images' to see what it was like.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Well actually it might well work but if it doesn't, who cares? At least I'm making an effort which is more than some here do by all accounts.
yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
At 90 % vaccination rate that is 10000 per 100000 not vaccinated
so at an infection rate of 500 per 100000
austria will be into full lock down from Monday because their infection rate is 1000 per 100000 combined with their low vaccination rate
February 1 and vaccination is compulsory in Austria
because the uk has a high vaccination rate there is no need for a national lock down
we all need to be sensible get the booster or self isolate
so at an infection rate of 500 per 100000
austria will be into full lock down from Monday because their infection rate is 1000 per 100000 combined with their low vaccination rate
February 1 and vaccination is compulsory in Austria
because the uk has a high vaccination rate there is no need for a national lock down
we all need to be sensible get the booster or self isolate
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
actually I believe latest figures for Austria are near 1400 cases per 100,000
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
yes exactly! I am not sure what your argument is 
65% of those hospitalised are vaccinated but the vaccinated accounts for close to 90% of the population 35% of those hospitalised come from the smaller 10% unvaccinated group. Hospilisation rates per 100,000 are significantly greater in the unvaccinated group than in the vaccinated group. This despite the fact the unvaccinated group has very few elderly or higher risk members, those who would have been at greatest risk of illness are weighted heavily into the vaccinated group. Maybe I can visualise it for you...
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- Sweden
I read your story and I never cry, but when i read your text i do. Six weeks ago my father get Covid +70y/o and four time the Doctor call me to come and say farewell. But like a miracle my father survived and that was only beacuse he have 2 shots of vaccin. Then read your father die beacuse of the vaccin is heartbreaking.
But if i understand all right and after talk to my fathers doctors, the vaccin are not to proctect me from get covid, just to proctect me from serious illnes and death if i get it, exactly what i did with my father.
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primmiemoo
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- Devon
Nobody needs to invoke belief. There's evidence to show that they work.
I quarantine my masks between wearings ~ although recent sniffles has seen them washed and rotated in wearings. The virus dies rapidly in dry fibres. The fatty layer (its lipid coat) breaks.
SilliamWhale
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You may do all that. The vast vast majority do not. Most people have a bit of rag in their car or handbag or pocket used and reused.
You may technically reduce the risk for some with a mask if you treat it as biohazard but at a practical level day to day they do sod all.
There's only 2 things that are proven to work. Self isolating, and lockdowns.
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- Somerset UK
I sell wheat to the local shoot, my GP is a member, he was out last week with a couple others bagging it up, he didn't wear a mask or insist anyone else did, we were all doing fairly vigorous work within a few feet of each other.
primmiemoo
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- Devon
Most people are a biohazard ~ me included ~ so I do hope you keep a safe distance from those who don't treat you as a biohazard
Farfrae
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- Pontargothi, Carmarthenshire
Masks don’t work, hardly a surprise when you see some manky bit of material being pulled out of a car ashtray. More interestingly as these bits of rag are all potentially contaminated biohazard material where are all biohazard disposal points? They are of course complete bunkum like most of the rest of the Covid nonsense. All this for a disease that on average the chance of surviving, if you catch it, is a mere 99.904% (very similar to flu). If you haven't yet worked out that you are being played for the benefit of the Great Reset/New World Order and Big Pharma there is little hope.
At least a dozen scientific studies have shown that masks do nothing to stop the spread of respiratory viruses.
One meta-analysis published by the CDC in May 2020 found “no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks”.
Another study with over 8000 subjects found masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.”
There are literally too many to quote them all, but you can read them: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Or read a summary by SPR here.
While some studies have been done claiming to show mask do work for Covid, they are all seriously flawed. One relied on self-reported surveys as data. Another was so badly designed a panel of experts demand it be withdrawn. A third was withdrawn after its predictions proved entirely incorrect.
The WHO commissioned their own meta-analysis in the Lancet, but that study looked only at N95 masks and only in hospitals. [For full run down on the bad data in this study click here.]
Aside from scientific evidence, there’s plenty of real-world evidence that masks do nothing to halt the spread of disease.
For example, North Dakota and South Dakota had near-identical case figures, despite one having a mask-mandate and the other not:
In Kansas, counties without mask mandates actually had fewer Covid “cases” than counties with mask mandates. And despite masks being very common in Japan, they had their worst flu outbreak in decades in 2019.
At least a dozen scientific studies have shown that masks do nothing to stop the spread of respiratory viruses.
One meta-analysis published by the CDC in May 2020 found “no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks”.
Another study with over 8000 subjects found masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.”
There are literally too many to quote them all, but you can read them: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Or read a summary by SPR here.
While some studies have been done claiming to show mask do work for Covid, they are all seriously flawed. One relied on self-reported surveys as data. Another was so badly designed a panel of experts demand it be withdrawn. A third was withdrawn after its predictions proved entirely incorrect.
The WHO commissioned their own meta-analysis in the Lancet, but that study looked only at N95 masks and only in hospitals. [For full run down on the bad data in this study click here.]
Aside from scientific evidence, there’s plenty of real-world evidence that masks do nothing to halt the spread of disease.
For example, North Dakota and South Dakota had near-identical case figures, despite one having a mask-mandate and the other not:
In Kansas, counties without mask mandates actually had fewer Covid “cases” than counties with mask mandates. And despite masks being very common in Japan, they had their worst flu outbreak in decades in 2019.
SilliamWhale
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Yes as long as you virtue signal with a mask all is well.
As you want to get personal are you making sure your weight is not excessive because that's a massive deciding covid factor as of course is age)?
SilliamWhale
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Most people are a biohazard ~ me included ~ so I do hope you keep a safe distance from those who don't treat you as a biohazard
Yes Covid only travels 2m in shops doesn't it? Not in pubs.
I don't really see people as biohazards but if that's the way you aim to live the rest of your life it's up to you. Covid will continue to circulate around and around and there is very little you can do about it
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- South Wales UK
Not looking clever out abroad with pending lockdowns?
Airlines shares plummeting on news too???
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- Near Beeston Castle
SilliamWhale
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Maybe I can visualise it for you...
View attachment 998521
Is your graph those in ICU, who die or those who are admitted into a and e and then leave with medication etc?
primmiemoo
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- Devon
It is odd, yes. Maybe some pubs use fung shui?
I think it's mazed to go into a pub, cafe, or restaurant that doesn't have all doors and windows open ~ especially if they've dropped the maximum number for customers. Outdoors only, well rugged up when the weather isn't good.
It'll be different next year.
SilliamWhale
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As I say masks are only really a form of making others feel safe or that the "govt is doing something".