Ad Blue Delete East Anglia

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Interestingly I was looking at a Claas tractor with Ad blue last year but was a bit worried about it for Kenya however they said no problem they’d remove it. That was the main dealer. I was surprised that they’d agree to do that.
I can see the scene in the dealers office
Salesman , hand over phone, “ oi, Lowland junior, can you sort a tractor for your dad”
In back ground “Uh, yeah”
Salesman turns back to phone, “ certainly Mr Lowland, no problem at all” 😂😂😂
 

Timbo

Member
Location
Gods County
My stress levels and machine downtime which affect the welfare of my livestock is more important to me than a tiny bit of pollution. The legalities of it only apply if the vehicle goes on a public road.

When the time comes to change my 3b jcb 531-70 for a later 4i model, the first improvement itll get is an adblu delete.

I cannot afford for it to derate on a sunday morning / christmas etc to tickover, when i have a farm full of hungry livestock to feed, just because the pumps died or a nox sensor has gone out of range....
 
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I did think that myself.
Almost got to the stage of keeping quiet about such things.
The Traffic commissioner for the west of England accused a lorry operator of murder because he had a delete on AB, he stated the operator was killing people, just slowly😲
Haulier I know deleted AB on his vehicles, but went on to claim against VW for buying one of their vehicles affected by the emissions scandal !!
Could this open the door for folk to claim against the deleters in the future if your health suffered ?
 

puntabrava

Member
Location
Wiltshire
Haulier I know deleted AB on his vehicles, but went on to claim against VW for buying one of their vehicles affected by the emissions scandal !!
Could this open the door for folk to claim against the deleters in the future if your health suffered ?
I do think I would not be openly posting away on the internet about it, also those offering disabling services on social media are open to future prosecution.
 
I am intrigued why people think it only applies to vehicles which go on the road?
As far as I am aware, it doesnt matter if it goes on the road or not.

Much the same as red diesel - for example, canal boats cannot use it...
I can't find anything to back that up, I think the rules stand at the moment off road use is still legal without adblue in the uk. There's loads of combines been deleted. Could you post a link.
 
If they didn't impose these very stringent emissions laws I feel like the engines would be so much further ahead. The last of the pre emissions engines were reliable and didn't belch too much smoke. Although yes maybe they did emit a lot of the nox. Honestly how good for the environment is making the adblu and shipping it, plus making all the additional parts for the system and fixing them multiple times a year when they don't work.
adblu and dpf ect relaly ruined diesels in my opinion
 

___\0/___

Member
Location
SW Scotland
How would they know. We do loads of audits and I’ve never had anyone go into that level of detail. They are hardly likely to be dipping the tanks.
Not saying Robt is right but some of those supermarket contracts want to know all your single use plastic in detail. If you have no ad blue containers it might flag you could then bend the truth a bit to create a paper trail but telling fibs as apposed to not declaring something is a bit different.

Think you would be surprised the amount of detail dairy farmers now have to hand over.
 

ACEngineering

Member
Location
Oxon
Cant see rt bein fit to enforce that as for a start thier inspectors arent mechanics or trained in diagnostics also if they start doin this sure u could just hide the offending tractors over at the neighbours on inspection days👀

They will impose big fines i expect on the people carrying out the work so no one will want to do it, evenually all these vehicals that have already had it done will just die out and be scrapped in the normal cycle of machinery or get put back to standard during a normal repair because say an ECU failed but the new one could not be coded to accept the modifcations already made elewhere so the owner has to pay for the dealer to undo all the work and make it standard as it would be illigal for them to do anything else but make it standard again.

It is highly unlikely there will be any inspections or follow up on stuff already modified unless there is a full HSE invetigation or insurance due to an incedent on farm/site.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
They will impose big fines i expect on the people carrying out the work so no one will want to do it, evenually all these vehicals that have already had it done will just die out and be scrapped in the normal cycle of machinery or get put back to standard during a normal repair because say an ECU failed but the new one could not be coded to accept the modifcations already made elewhere so the owner has to pay for the dealer to undo all the work and make it standard as it would be illigal for them to do anything else but make it standard again.

It is highly unlikely there will be any inspections or follow up on stuff already modified unless there is a full HSE invetigation or insurance due to an incedent on farm/site.
If only the manufacturer made it so it didnt give trouble then thered be no problem
 
I can't find anything to back that up, I think the rules stand at the moment off road use is still legal without adblue in the uk. There's loads of combines been deleted. Could you post a link.
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ACEngineering

Member
Location
Oxon
If only the manufacturer made it so it didnt give trouble then thered be no problem

Some of the problems come from the operators though, via poor cleanliness when refilling and taking too long which let's crystals form.

I believe the adblue nozzles like to block as well which is why when you turn machine off I think they vent the nozzles on some stuff?

It's funny how some machines never have any problems and others do though.
To best of my knowledge the adblue on the manitous gives very little bother, yet landlords 2018 jcb is always got some kind off error on it.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Some of the problems come from the operators though, via poor cleanliness when refilling and taking too long which let's crystals form.

I believe the adblue nozzles like to block as well which is why when you turn machine off I think they vent the nozzles on some stuff?

It's funny how some machines never have any problems and others do though.
To best of my knowledge the adblue on the manitous gives very little bother, yet landlords 2018 jcb is always got some kind off error on it.
I've been wondering what sort of problems people have and why?
I've done thousands of miles in trucks with DEF and can't remember them being any more troublesome than other components.
Is it a refilling issue, DEF quality, servicing or just I don't like it, so Its getting deleted?
In the truck my biggest problem was not being allowed to leave the yard with an ABS light on but the workshop didn't disconnect the brakes.
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Dirty Ad-blue caused most of our issues. IBC and a Jug that would be left everywhere and used for screenwash water etc and sat on the yard picking up sh!t.

Changed to proper tank and trigger nozzle set up and the problems pretty much stopped.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
I've been wondering what sort of problems people have and why?
I've done thousands of miles in trucks with DEF and can't remember them being any more troublesome than other components.
Is it a refilling issue, DEF quality, servicing or just I don't like it, so Its getting deleted?
In the truck my biggest problem was not being allowed to leave the yard with an ABS light on but the workshop didn't disconnect the brakes.
Trucks seem to be more reliable, have you adblue on ag vehicle’s
 

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