yes but you become a leader because you want to lead and have earned the trust of those that want to be lead.
never in my life have i heard anyone say " what he only £80k i'm not following him"
Boris.
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never in my life have i heard anyone say " what he only £80k i'm not following him"
Yes but to get a great leader you need to pay. I’m far from a great leader but I could easily move to London and earn £100k tomorrow. I don’t want to. So you have to find someone that is good at leading, can put up with the media. Work for a Wally and know it’s a short term role that is thankless but could , just could , actually make a difference . Sadly very few politicians are like Sir David Amess. Most are like Matt Hancock. And that is why we are where we are.
Have you got a dayjob now, writing for Private Eye....?
I do like a bit of satire in the morning.
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2wheels
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more belgian blue.
M-J-G
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They've usually got an ugly head thoughmore belgian blue.
DeeGee
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As regards Thatcher you either loved her or loathed her. I loathed her but at least I suppose she had some sort of moral standards and she stuck by her principles, whether you agreed with them or not.
The current buffoon has few morals, no principles and all the credibility of a shady back street wheeler dealer.
Unfortunately there still doesn’t seem to be any credible opposition to him in parliament.
The current buffoon has few morals, no principles and all the credibility of a shady back street wheeler dealer.
Unfortunately there still doesn’t seem to be any credible opposition to him in parliament.
Couldn't agree more.
For Thatcher see also Corbyn. I can't think of a single policy he championed that I agreed with him on, but you have to respect the fact he supported the policies he did, with conviction, consistency and for the right reasons.
His ideas were in the main completely mad, and would have brought the country to its knees, but he chose them for the right reasons, which is to be respected, not because he thought he'd get a book deal, or his flat re-decorated.
I think Starmer has a far more electable approach, but he's got to get the trade unions out of their Corbyn/Macdonald rut to stand a chance, and I think the chance to nip that in the bud for Kier has now passed. He should have torn the plaster off at the start. (which to be fair, like it or loathe it, is what BJ did with the remainers in his party)
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Kier Starmer hasn’t got the motivational personality to be a credible leader IMO. Any reasonably talented opposition leader would have had months of leisurely turkey shooting at this wretched government; someone like Aneurin Bevan or Denis Healey w
Also he has an unfortunate habit of disagreeing with everything the government does, or doesn’t do. Thus he has understandably earned the reputation of being ‘Captain Hindsight’ making himself a easy target for the Tories to knock down.
So, in all honesty there doesn’t seem to
yup- has spent too long pandering to appease both sides of his party- which is probably more split than the tories were post referendum, and now is too far down the road to be able to pull himself or the party back.
He's trying to keep middle ground amongst his party. Middle ground is the Lib Dems territory, and look where it's got them...
DeeGee
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Kier Starmer hasn’t got the motivational personality to be a credible leader IMO. Any reasonably talented opposition leader in the House of Commons would have had months of leisurely turkey shooting at this wretched government; someone like Aneurin Bevan or Denis Healey would have torn to shreds this shambolic assembly of corrupt clowns.
But Starmer just has an unfortunate trait of habitually disagreeing with everything the government does, or doesn’t do. Thus he has understandably earned the reputation of being ‘Captain Hindsight’ and making himself such an easy target for the Tories to knock down. He lacks personality, leadership, and a sense of humour that could and should have made this government even more of a laughing stock than it already is.
So, in all honesty there doesn’t seem to be a really credible alternative to the current buffoon that we have as prime minister; the current Labour Party, and that of the past decade, has to take much of the blame for this.
Having spoken to someone that knows her,his comment was that Truss and trust were two words you wouldn’t find together.
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What? Mayor of Manchester and supports the toffees?
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been even worse under Albert Steptoe but like plenty have said where is there a credible alternative? there isnt
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have you seen him on Spitting Image (Fox Man) utterly brilliant
Chae1
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Michael Gove been mentioned yet!?
Chae1
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Thought it might encourage him to look after local interests.I think the last time you took him out in Aberdeen put the kibosh on that suggestion
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Despite his shortcomings Bojo is going nowhere in my view. The basic elements are in good shape, inflation is a distraction, however that is out of his hands and is not down to a failed policy.
I think their maybe a Stalking Horse, and that is Rees Mogg (supported by others) who is undermining what is happening behind closed doors.
The Stanley Johnston revelation came pretty quickly after Bojo U turned on the Paterson amendment ?
The problem is simple, there is no credible opposition. Despite Starmer looking like a decent Man, his benches are riddled with left of left idiots. Labour must dance to the tune of Unite, and that is a major dead weight in today's politics.
Labour has not woken up to the fact that they will not (and cannot) tax the rich, it's impossible. So, the soft target will be those around £85k plus which reaches many self-employed (rich in some Labour minds) people, and that is a political own goal.
We need stronger opposition, and that will not happen anytime soon.
I think their maybe a Stalking Horse, and that is Rees Mogg (supported by others) who is undermining what is happening behind closed doors.
The Stanley Johnston revelation came pretty quickly after Bojo U turned on the Paterson amendment ?
The problem is simple, there is no credible opposition. Despite Starmer looking like a decent Man, his benches are riddled with left of left idiots. Labour must dance to the tune of Unite, and that is a major dead weight in today's politics.
Labour has not woken up to the fact that they will not (and cannot) tax the rich, it's impossible. So, the soft target will be those around £85k plus which reaches many self-employed (rich in some Labour minds) people, and that is a political own goal.
We need stronger opposition, and that will not happen anytime soon.
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