Land Appropriation

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Serbia have just passed a law that land , that may have been farmed or owned by the family for generations, can be claimed by the State and the occupier evicted in just 8 days. Rio Tinto want to build a massive opencast Lithium mine, when the landowners refused to sell the government rushed this law through parliament.
The shape of things to come?
 

will l

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Arable Farmer
Serbia have just passed a law that land , that may have been farmed or owned by the family for generations, can be claimed by the State and the occupier evicted in just 8 days. Rio Tinto want to build a massive opencast Lithium mine, when the landowners refused to sell the government rushed this law through parliament.
The shape of things to come?
Happened in Venezuela as well,
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Serbia have just passed a law that land , that may have been farmed or owned by the family for generations, can be claimed by the State and the occupier evicted in just 8 days. Rio Tinto want to build a massive opencast Lithium mine, when the landowners refused to sell the government rushed this law through parliament.
The shape of things to come?
We certainly have compulsory purchase with no come back here. Not often used now but it can be done, I suspect the same is true in France.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
We certainly have compulsory purchase with no come back here. Not often used now but it can be done, I suspect the same is true in France.
It's not so much a problem in a democracy where there is an independent Judiciary and, so, the rule of law. Of course there will always be some individual cases which seem unfair, but on the whole there is almost always a 'greater good' that is apparent to any objective observer.

Can't say I've any faith in 'justice' where there isn't a functioning democracy and an independent Judiciary...
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Land appropriation happens in many different forms. There are the obvious forms such as compulsory purchase for national infrastructure and then the more insidious ways such as forcing folks out of business either by legislation or even schemes devised by our own “industry” to squeeze out folks who don’t quite conform to their particular way of doing things.
My father’s generation feared the “WarAg” which had powers to evict right into the 1950’s. The committee often comprised of larger farmers who in some peoples view used the committees powers to dispossess smaller competitors who didn’t meet their quite narrow definition of “efficiency”. Sounds familiar? Well in my view RT is just a reincarnation of the WarAg bullyboy mentality, supported now as it was then by the big beasts in the NFU. Iron fist in the velvet glove. British democracy at work.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
We certainly have compulsory purchase with no come back here. Not often used now but it can be done, I suspect the same is true in France.
Compulsory purchase is one thing, it goes through planning and takes a fairly long time. In France they try to replace your ground with some that's for sale or by amalgamation, money is if you want to retire.
Serbia is 8 days and your on the road.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
And it will be very interesting to see how things pan out with rewilding and tree planting here. What if there is isn’t enough voluntary participation to meet government targets. Will there be a kind of Greening Compliance Committee? Will Chris Packham be sending the heavies round to evict you if you don’t comply with the national plan. Interesting times ahead.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
And it will be very interesting to see how things pan out with rewilding and tree planting here. What if there is isn’t enough voluntary participation to meet government targets. Will there be a kind of Greening Compliance Committee? Will Chris Packham be sending the heavies round to evict you if you don’t comply with the national plan. Interesting times ahead.
That's rather what it feels like. Disgraceful.
 

Tubbylew

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Location
Herefordshire
Land appropriation happens in many different forms. There are the obvious forms such as compulsory purchase for national infrastructure and then the more insidious ways such as forcing folks out of business either by legislation or even schemes devised by our own “industry” to squeeze out folks who don’t quite conform to their particular way of doing things.
My father’s generation feared the “WarAg” which had powers to evict right into the 1950’s. The committee often comprised of larger farmers who in some peoples view used the committees powers to dispossess smaller competitors who didn’t meet their quite narrow definition of “efficiency”. Sounds familiar? Well in my view RT is just a reincarnation of the WarAg bullyboy mentality, supported now as it was then by the big beasts in the NFU. Iron fist in the velvet glove. British democracy at work.
My great grandfather which had 25 acres taken and let to a neighbour for ten years as he had a crippled leg. He didn't live long enough after the war to see it returned. Although it did come back (eventually). He still had 90 or so acres to go at, and with the help of my grandfather, it went from a D rating to A+.

 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 79 42.2%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.8%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.0%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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