Calf with Coccidiosis

Trolliloes · Dec 3, 2021

I have a 7 week old calf with cocci. The Vet has treated it with Trymox and after no change another vet visit, calf was given an epidural to stop it straining, something to help with stomach irritation, an antibiotic that also works on cocci.. Sorry can't mention names as can't read the Vet's writing. The epidural wore off and the calf started straining again. The calf is still very loose almost like water and now a yellow brown colour and still stinks. It's been on Rehydion for over a week. As you can imagine it has lost a lot of weight and stands with a hunched back. It's surviving in the main off of 2 feeds a day of 6 litres milk with the Rehydion in. It has hay and straw and nuts. It will occasionally eat some hay/straw but not much at all.

Is there something I am missing that I can try? I don't want to get Vet out again as nothing they give is helping.

Thanks in advance

Farmer Fin · Dec 3, 2021

There will be massive amounts of damage to the gut caused by the cocci. The drugs will have killed the cocci but now you need the guts to regenerate and this will take time. The vet will probably have put the calf on TMPs which is an antibiotic with some activity against cocci.
The only other treatment would be some steroids.

Trolliloes · Dec 3, 2021

Farmer Fin said:
There will be massive amounts of damage to the gut caused by the cocci. The drugs will have killed the cocci but now you need the guts to regenerate and this will take time. The vet will probably have put the calf on TMPs which is an antibiotic with some activity against cocci.
The only other treatment would be some steroids.

This is our worry as the calf was passing blood. Ok so best to just keep up with the milk and the rehydion and keep fingers crossed? Thanks for your reply

BRBX · Dec 3, 2021

Nasty stuff , we now treat everything with tolracol as prevention, calf will probably recover but knocks the stuffing out of them , will sort itself out quick once gut bacteria have recovered but damage will be done as said.

Trolliloes · Dec 3, 2021

BRBX said:
Nasty stuff , we now treat everything with tolracol as prevention, calf will probably recover but knocks the stuffing out of them , will sort itself out quick once gut bacteria have recovered but damage will be done as said.

Thanks for your reply. Hit us out of the blue. Reared 7 batches of calves before these ones and never had a problem with cocci. Giving it Live yoghurt in its milk to help with the gut bacteria.

Sir loin · Dec 3, 2021

can you not help get the gut flora back quicker with yoghurt/ probiotics?

EDIT you beat me to it!!!

Werzle · Dec 3, 2021

Synulox tablets would help it in imo

Trolliloes · Dec 3, 2021

Werzle said:
Synulox tablets would help it in imo

What are they and are they from vet?

Werzle · Dec 3, 2021

Trolliloes said:
What are they and are they from vet?

Yes get them from the vet, scour bolus that will coat and soothe the stomach lining

Yale · Dec 3, 2021

This year I’ve put lick buckets which contain a herbal ingredient.The calves on the sucklers recently have been struggling with Cocci symptoms.

This year from when some started getting dirty bums I put these buckets out and they dried up quickly.The calves have also done better.

Mounted a tyre in the calf creep and put the bucket there.

Owens Nutrition

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Coincidence?

Trolliloes · Dec 3, 2021

Werzle said:
Yes get them from the vet, scour bolus that will coat and soothe the stomach lining

Ahh ok thanks

Yale said:
This year I’ve put lick buckets which contain a herbal ingredient.The calves on the sucklers recently have been struggling with Cocci symptoms.

This year from when some started getting dirty bums I put these buckets out and they dried up quickly.The calves have also done better.

Mounted a tyre in the calf creep and put the bucket there.

Owens Nutrition

Ownens Nutrition - manufacturers and suppliers of animal feed buckets, molassed mineral buckets and tick repellents.

www.owensnutrition.co.uk

Coincidence?

Ahh ok thanks. Which lick did you use please?

Farmer Fin · Dec 3, 2021

Werzle said:
Yes get them from the vet, scour bolus that will coat and soothe the stomach lining

Won’t make a difference. Just a different type of antibiotic.

Farmer Fin · Dec 3, 2021

Trolliloes said:
This is our worry as the calf was passing blood. Ok so best to just keep up with the milk and the rehydion and keep fingers crossed? Thanks for your reply

Yep keep going with the supportive care as you are doing. Like I said a jab if steroids if not already done would be the only other thing.

Celt83 · Dec 3, 2021

Everything that gets bought in here gets a dose of vecoxan. You can get feed with added decox added to it which is good, but both are prevention rather than cure.

Cocci is very nasty. I hope the calf will pull through.

AftonShepherd · Dec 4, 2021

Celt83 said:
Everything that gets bought in here gets a dose of vecoxan. You can get feed with added decox added to it which is good, but both are prevention rather than cure.

Cocci is very nasty. I hope the calf will pull through.

Have always been told that Vecoxan only works.if they have already been exposed to cocci and you are potentially wasting your money if you don't wait until one of a batch is displaying clinical signs.

Celt83 · Dec 4, 2021

AftonShepherd said:
Have always been told that Vecoxan only works.if they have already been exposed to cocci and you are potentially wasting your money if you don't wait until one of a batch is displaying clinical signs.

Possibly. But haven't lost an animal in over three years after practicing this. £165 for a 5ltr pot (generic) compared to a dead calf which cost £300+ is money well spent in my eyes.

Before drenching, every calf that pulled through would have had a massive check and come turn out you could spot them a mole off.

AftonShepherd · Dec 4, 2021

Celt83 said:
Possibly. But haven't lost an animal in over three years after practicing this. £165 for a 5ltr pot (generic) compared to a dead calf which cost £300+ is money well spent in my eyes.

Before drenching, every calf that pulled through would have had a massive check and come turn out you could spot them a mole off.

Don't change what's working for you. My post wasn't meant to be having a go, everything from Vecoxan onwards should have been in quotation marks probably.

Given the relatively cheaper generic choices available now I'm tempted to dose mine slightly earlier next year and see what happens. Last year only one batch out of three needed doing though. We're sucklers and as long as we dose them immediately there's any sign of dirty arses they don't seem to get much of a check. Leaving them longer does, a costly mistake the first time we had it.

Yale · Dec 4, 2021

Trolliloes said:
Ahh ok thanks

Ahh ok thanks. Which lick did you use please?

The one in the link,triple attack.

I wouldn’t normally endorse any particular product in these lick buckets however these genuinely seemed to make a difference.

Also I reckon I only put out 3-4 buckets total,periodically replacing when they were empty with 40 calves all summer so they seem quite economical.

Yale · Dec 4, 2021

As you can see I’ve got a bucket in the shed where the spring born calves creep to.

andybk · Dec 4, 2021

we use vecoxin on lambs , we also use the brinicombe imuherb buckets just to keep levels down , seem to work ok often get a rise in issues late autumn and they have kept lambs dry this year but wouldnt rely on them yet in face of an outbreak .

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