Excellent article about vegans getting ill.

Hampton

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I know of someone local to me who reckons he feels 100% better re arthritic pains since becoming a vegan. Late 50s , and he looks fit and well on it. He did mention that he had retired from a fairly physical job about 2 years ago so I did wonder whether the retirement and easier life had any bearing. The trouble is he and his missus are so evangelical about the whole business. Wife particularly, describing honey as ''bee sick'' ffs.
A neighbour of mine took up beekeeping 4 years ago and now says she no longer suffers from hay fever.

I don’t have a problem with the vegan diet, but it needs supplementing, and the best way to supplement it is with meat and animal products.
 

DaveGrohl

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I know of someone local to me who reckons he feels 100% better re arthritic pains since becoming a vegan. Late 50s , and he looks fit and well on it. He did mention that he had retired from a fairly physical job about 2 years ago so I did wonder whether the retirement and easier life had any bearing. The trouble is he and his missus are so evangelical about the whole business. Wife particularly, describing honey as ''bee sick'' ffs.
Without knowing any more it sounds very much like placebo effect/confirmation bias. It'd be interesting to know what he ate before and what he eats after. Hey ho, as long as they're not harming anyone else (such as children) let them get on with it.
 

unlacedgecko

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To be perfectly blunt, what exactly do they want from "rewilding"? Nature will find its own balance. Doesn't sound like they want that though, but that's the real problem innit? Yes but no but. Nature IS death, get over it.
Large herds fenced into a limited area with non population control other than starvation is not natural.


Where are the predators to kill the weak and sick?
 

DaveGrohl

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Large herds fenced into a limited area with non population control other than starvation is not natural.


Where are the predators to kill the weak and sick?
Well yes and no. This was their "idea" of rewilding.

It would make far more sense if every fence was torn down, then the animals and predators would be free to roam around the planet. They'd obv end up eating all those vegan crops bringing us neatly back round to veganism and would concentrate a few minds.
 

Barleycorn

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Hamilton is one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Being on a plant based diet while partaking in one of the most carbon intensive circuses going, (and I am an F1 fan) and lecturing others over their diet while he can more than afford the expensive supplements and nutrition support being the multi millionaire elite sportsman that he is.
Whilst you cannot deny his talent behind the wheel I cannot help but feel he is all noise and posturing who's number one concern is Lewis Hamilton. He is merely the poster boy for the oil and chemical industries who line his pockets
He conveniently ignores Mercedes's involvement in Jewish enslavement and murder at their factories in the early nineteen forties, but those slaves were white, their lives didn't matter!
 

jerseycowsman

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Actually if you look at a list of athletes who claim they are vegan there is only a couple I recognise, being Djokovic and Hamilton. However all, take all manner of supplements to ensure they are at the top of the game. Many it is known have taken other more dubious ones before getting to the top such as growth hormones and it is amazing how many are asthmatic so require the "necessary" medication
Djokovic puts alsorts of supplemental shite into his body, but he wont have the Covid vaccine!
 

jerseycowsman

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Hamilton is one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Being on a plant based diet while partaking in one of the most carbon intensive circuses going, (and I am an F1 fan) and lecturing others over their diet while he can more than afford the expensive supplements and nutrition support being the multi millionaire elite sportsman that he is.
Whilst you cannot deny his talent behind the wheel I cannot help but feel he is all noise and posturing who's number one concern is Lewis Hamilton. He is merely the poster boy for the oil and chemical industries who line his pockets
The latest in his hypocrisy, Mercedes’ are now sponsored by the company that cut corners at Grenfell tower. When asked how he feels about this, he basically said it’s nothing to do with me, I just work for Mercedes!
Well, my cows burping is nothing to do with me, I just milk them!
 

Ted M

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Bit like his feeling "uncomfortable" over racing in Saudi and their human rights records last weekend.
That was down to his employer as well.
He didn't feel uncomfortable enough to refuse to race as there's a world title in the offing which would obviously net good old sir Lewis a few more quid in lucrative sponsorship.
At least when Lando Norris announced he was moving to Monaco he was upfront enough to be honest that it was for financial reasons and he was protecting his interests as no one knows when their career might be over.
 

DaveGrohl

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Bit like his feeling "uncomfortable" over racing in Saudi and their human rights records last weekend.
That was down to his employer as well.
He didn't feel uncomfortable enough to refuse to race as there's a world title in the offing which would obviously net good old sir Lewis a few more quid in lucrative sponsorship.
At least when Lando Norris announced he was moving to Monaco he was upfront enough to be honest that it was for financial reasons and he was protecting his interests as no one knows when their career might be over.
Hamilton makes me feel "uncomfortable". Weapons grade "uncomfortable".
 

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