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Sebastian77

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Mixed Farmer
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Nottingham
The production factories (X3) at the side of the A50, a few hundred yards up from the uttoxeter turn off is Staffordshire yeah, drive past it very often. Rye valley John deeres just down the road and brand new Russell's New Holland just over the other side. I believe there is another JCB "head office" further north in Rocester but that is still Staffordshire.
 

Martin Holden

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Cheltenham
Need to watch it in slow motion, so you can see the jcb machine going through the paint booth!!! - Blink and you will miss it. ;)

(tbf I am basing this on owning a jcb digger a few years ago, the paintwork might be better nowadays!)
Since the abolition of chemical based paints, quality and longevity have been a constant struggle in production. Water based paints are more environmentally acceptable but not as hard wearing as the old type. Good quality powder paint requires shot peening first especially cut edges on thin steel and then it’s not so bad. Interesting to see how Manila the assembly is but then most Ag’ and construction gear is manually assembled due to production levels.
 

bobajob

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Sw Scotland
Since the abolition of chemical based paints, quality and longevity have been a constant struggle in production. Water based paints are more environmentally acceptable but not as hard wearing as the old type. Good quality powder paint requires shot peening first especially cut edges on thin steel and then it’s not so bad. Interesting to see how Manila the assembly is but then most Ag’ and construction gear is manually assembled due to production levels.

Yes I hear you regarding paint types nowadays, but how come some manufacturers can make a good job of painting a machine and others are just awful and have been for years.
A rusty machine must be worth a lot less than one with bright paintwork when it comes time to trade it in.

As you know these machines are costing a hell of a lot of money nowadays, we deserve better, if you bought a new hi spec German car and it was rusting like a yellow digger etc you would not be chuffed why should farmers/ contractors be expected to just accept it.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
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Cheltenham
Yes I hear you regarding paint types nowadays, but how come some manufacturers can make a good job of painting a machine and others are just awful and have been for years.
A rusty machine must be worth a lot less than one with bright paintwork when it comes time to trade it in.

As you know these machines are costing a hell of a lot of money nowadays, we deserve better, if you bought a new hi spec German car and it was rusting like a yellow digger etc you would not be chuffed why should farmers/ contractors be expected to just accept it.
Fair comment. I don’t know why quality varies so much. Unless you can follow the whole process it’s hard to pinpoint the weak links
 

bobajob

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Location
Sw Scotland
Definitely more to it than just slapping a bit of paint on.!

I had to laugh at the comment saying the chap with the yellow spray gun was looking bored and was wafting it about like watering his lawn.!
 
Since the abolition of chemical based paints, quality and longevity have been a constant struggle in production. Water based paints are more environmentally acceptable but not as hard wearing as the old type. Good quality powder paint requires shot peening first especially cut edges on thin steel and then it’s not so bad. Interesting to see how Manila the assembly is but then most Ag’ and construction gear is manually assembled due to production levels.
Both of the paint coats used for the yellow are solvent based. A lot is made of the requirement for water based paints but on a car it is only the colour coat which is water based. Primers and lacquer still solvent based.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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