BBC,yet again !

texelburger

texelburger

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BBC news had a report on the rise in temperature throughout the World and the one way to help prevent this was to reduce meat consumption. Then after 6 o clock news came Midlands today where they did a report on a competition amongst Birmingham schools to become the most eco friendly and ,guess what,one of the solutions was meat free meals.Now if it was true I could understand but it's not.As a retired teacher told me on the weekend if you constantly, repeatedly say the same thing it becomes accepted as true.The BBC are certainly upping their game with the drip,drip of misinformation.
 
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M-J-G

M-J-G

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texelburger said:
BBC news had a report on the rise in temperature throughiut the World and the one way to help prevent this was to reduce meat consumption. Then after 6 o clock news came Midlands today where they did a report on a competition amongst Birmingham schools to become the most eco friendly and ,guess what,one of the solutions was meat free meals.Now if it was true I could understand but it's not.As a retired teacher told me on the weekend if you constantly, repeatedly say the same thing it becomes accepted as true.The BBC are certainly upping their game with the drip,drip of misinformation.
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And still, people fall into line to pay the dictated licence fee.
 
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delilah

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texelburger said:
As a retired teacher told me on the weekend if you constantly, repeatedly say the same thing it becomes accepted as true.The NFU and AHDB are certainly upping their game with the drip,drip of misinformation.
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Edited for you. All the BBC are doing is reporting NFU and AHDB policy. Cows cause climate change. Less cows means lower GHG emissions. We need to replace the sheep with trees. It's all in the NFU and AHDB websites, social media and reports to Government. Try challenging apologists for the NFU and the AHDB and they tell you to butt out. It's not the BBC's fault. Stop shooting the messenger.
 
Cowabunga

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It’s not just The BBC. It’s the way the political and social wind is blowing and The BBC is reflecting that. Yes, it is also propagating it, of course it is. Frankly, farmer’s must be totally in Ostrich-mode if they haven’t realised that farming for food production is no longer of importance to UK Governments and that trees and re-wilding and imported meat products will replace vast swathes of UK livestock, specifically ruminant and pork agriculture over the next decade or certainly two. Even with the tacit approval of the farming Union which you might expect, mistakenly, to be looking after the interests of actual farmers as well as the real rural environment and domestic food production and security.
You can shout about ‘unsustainable sources’ all you like and it will make no difference. Only the inability to purchase food from abroad, resulting in empty shelves and unaffordable prices will have any effect on policy in favour of domestic food production once more. Should that ever happen.
 
borderterribles

borderterribles

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Cowabunga said:
It’s not just The BBC. It’s the way the political and social wind is blowing and The BBC is reflecting that. Yes, it is also propagating it, of course it is. Frankly, farmer’s must be totally in Ostrich-mode if they haven’t realised that farming for food production is no longer of importance to UK Governments and that trees and re-wilding and imported meat products will replace vast swathes of UK livestock, specifically ruminant and pork agriculture over the next decade or certainly two. Even with the tacit approval of the farming Union which you might expect, mistakenly, to be looking after the interests of actual farmers as well as the real rural environment and domestic food production and security.
You can shout about ‘unsustainable sources’ all you like and it will make no difference. Only the inability to purchase food from abroad, resulting in empty shelves and unaffordable prices will have any effect on policy in favour of domestic food production once more. Should that ever happen.
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I don't "like" what you wrote, but I fear it is undeniably true:confused:
 
Wuffler

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I don't know if many of you watched the first episode of the BBC's Green Planet series, a wonderful program and beautifully filmed but even David Attenborough had a dig at beef production, albeit brief and aimed at Brazil.
Still, it was a dig at all livestock producers, thus keeping the drip, drip effect very much alive...
 
Lofty1984

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Wuffler said:
I don't know if many of you watched the first episode of the BBC's Green Planet series, a wonderful program and beautifully filmed but even David Attenborough had a dig at beef production, albeit brief and aimed at Brazil.
Still, it was a dig at all livestock producers, thus keeping the drip, drip effect very much alive...
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Gone are the days of him being strictly focused on telling us about nature it’s all done with undertones of humanity is a plague and that climate change is the end of civilisation I’ve got great respect for Attenborough but please stick to interesting facts on nature I’m sick of the doom and gloom being rammed constantly down your throat
 
Bald Rick

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yellow belly said:
Defund the bbc

people have to eat
Highly processed meat free food that is imported a from an unsustainable source is no different from importing corn/soya based meat

uk meat from uk feed and pasture is more sustainable
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Article in the Times yesterday suggesting that there is a strong link between processed foods and suppressed immune systems in humans leading to increased intolerance and rising allergies.

This sort of thing needs promoting
 
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DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
Wuffler said:
I don't know if many of you watched the first episode of the BBC's Green Planet series, a wonderful program and beautifully filmed but even David Attenborough had a dig at beef production, albeit brief and aimed at Brazil.
Still, it was a dig at all livestock producers, thus keeping the drip, drip effect very much alive...
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Ah yes. Good old David Attenborough. The man who built a career flying all over the globe now going on like a broken record about climate change.
 
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DaveGrohl

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Wuffler said:
I don't know if many of you watched the first episode of the BBC's Green Planet series, a wonderful program and beautifully filmed but even David Attenborough had a dig at beef production, albeit brief and aimed at Brazil.
Still, it was a dig at all livestock producers, thus keeping the drip, drip effect very much alive...
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I don’t generally watch any of these programmes, I get enough of nature every day. I saw this new one was being aired and immediately thought, yep, Attenborough having yet another series to tell us all plants are wonderful and humans are killing the planet by eating meat.
 
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DaveGrohl

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Bald Rick said:
Article in the Times yesterday suggesting that there is a strong link between processed foods and suppressed immune systems in humans leading to increased intolerance and rising allergies.

This sort of thing needs promoting
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Plenty of this stuff about now. Pretty clear that the science is ever so slowly starting to point us in the right direction. Turns out the right direction is going back to what we used to do before the 20th Century and the food/pharmaceutical industries got involved. Pointing in the right direction and the establishment accepting they have to adjust their "advice" are two different things though. The actual rate of change is glacial sadly. We’ll get there eventually, facts have a nasty habit of coming out.
 
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DaveGrohl

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jondear said:
Even a quiz on Radio 1 this morning .One if the questions was !What reduces over the age of 24 ? Ability to sleep .or Tolerate Dairy !Ffs
It was Sleeping!
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Was watching that C5 programme the other night about diets etc. Apparently increasing numbers of people are buying gluten free products because they somehow perceive the "gluten free" label as healthier in spite of not having a clue what gluten is or why some people need to avoid gluten. Yet another marketing triumph from the processed food industry. I mean WTAF?!? Mankind‘s average IQ really is heading downhill rapidly.
 
Woolless

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DaveGrohl said:
I don’t generally watch any of these programmes, I get enough of nature every day. I saw this new one was being aired and immediately thought, yep, Attenborough having yet another series to tell us all plants are wonderful and humans are killing the planet by eating meat.
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He had a point about meat production destroying the planet if it was related to burning the Amazon to run beef cattle. Can't argue there.

PM on R4 are having meat as their theme this year, so we'll see what they come up with. Henry Dimbleby was on last night. He was repeating the 'eat less meat' line but also made a few good points. Don't know if @delilah heard it?
 
Humble Village Farmer

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Wuffler said:
I don't know if many of you watched the first episode of the BBC's Green Planet series, a wonderful program and beautifully filmed but even David Attenborough had a dig at beef production, albeit brief and aimed at Brazil.
Still, it was a dig at all livestock producers, thus keeping the drip, drip effect very much alive...
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Attenborough's point is more about land use to grow animal products than damage caused by the animals themselves.

Reducing land use could allow more land for natural ecosystems.
 
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