4wd tractor with loader suggestions

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
Now no idea who is selling this or if it’s genuine with only two feedbacks but does give an idea of what’s out there. It’s a 16 speed tractor so the better version


I would personally avoid something like this with column change


And maybe a 4610 is not heavy enough for a tonne bag or big bale without another big bale on the back, especially with this way too long loader!!

 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
As has already been said condition is the main thing
A good tractor from the 70's will be far superior to a clapped out abused modern one
Plus a lot of repairs can be carried out by an untrained bloke with an adjustable spanner (I manage anyway). No waiting until Monday morning for a lad in a posh van to bring his laptop out to tell you its a blown fuse or hes never seen that error code before
Have a look around and see what takes your fancy good and bad come in all makes and models and price ranges
If you default into the "I have no idea why my lights have failed, I'll phone the dealer" mode with a newer one, you would be likely to do so with the old one also I reckon. I've never had a man with a laptop out to any of my pretty-well drive-by-wire fleet, the eldest being 28 years of age with Italian wiring. Its just a well worn cliché.
 

essexpete

Member
Location
Essex
Hi all,

New to the forum and wanted to get some feedback on best options for a 4wd tractor with a loader. I work FT but last few years have got back in to keeping a few cattle having grown up on a farm. Mostly bouncing between my father and father in laws farms when a pen or field is free!

I've got to the stage where I'm fed up having to rely on and borrowing their equipment and thinking of buying my own 4wd tractor but will need a loader. Will be used to draw ton bags of meal in, unload them in to my shed, draw cattle and bales etc. Will allow me to be independent and after blowing the clutch on my wife's Q5 drawing two bulls between farms I think having a good road worthy tractor is the way to go. Budget is about £10k - £12k.

I know my hobby farming will never pay it off but between being stuck behind a computer for 40+ hours a week with work and 3 young kids at home I have really fallen back in love with being outside and working on the farm again. Thinking for all the work it will get it should do me for a long time if I get the right one.

I've been looking about online and when I see something decent the first thing I do is Google it and get all the horror stories and faults...really hard to know what is the best option for what I want and my budget.

Any and all advice greatly appreciated!
Declan
Do you definitely need 4wd? Although a loader is better handled with 4wd one that has been abused/neglected could be expensive. I have always liked the IH tractors but some hate them with a passion, the gearbox set up on a standard tractor not ideal for a loader.
Some of the 80s and early 90s cabs of many marques need careful inspection as can be total rust buckets.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
That is the kind of thing that is really suitable as long as it all works. Don't expect the air-con to work perhaps but if it does, that may be a bonus. Important that the front axle bearings aren't worn, that the gearbox synchromesh also works and there is some meat in the clutch. Generally that everything works and that there are signs that it has been greased and serviced regularly. If all good, it will hold its value well and possibly even increase.
 

HDAV

Member
That is the kind of thing that is really suitable as long as it all works. Don't expect the air-con to work perhaps but if it does, that may be a bonus. Important that the front axle bearings aren't worn, that the gearbox synchromesh also works and there is some meat in the clutch. Generally that everything works and that there are signs that it has been greased and serviced regularly. If all good, it will hold its value well and possibly even increase.
Clearly condition is everything and if it’s been abused run away, but less chance of abuse in a 20 year life than a 40 year one? Or does all the abuse happen when they are nice and shiny and not when they are tired and rusty? And why does no one replace a seat ? Every machine I look at has knackered seat seats aren’t expensive and you have to sit in it potentially for hours and they are all ripped and missing moats of the foam????
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Clearly condition is everything and if it’s been abused run away, but less chance of abuse in a 20 year life than a 40 year one? Or does all the abuse happen when they are nice and shiny and not when they are tired and rusty? And why does no one replace a seat ? Every machine I look at has knackered seat seats aren’t expensive and you have to sit in it potentially for hours and they are all ripped and missing moats of the foam????
Have you priced a good seat lately?
As for chance of abuse, it doesn't really follow a time schedule. It just depends on whether it has had a sympathetic driver or an animal that couldn't give a rat's arse for either its whole life or just a good proportion of it. I once had a neighbour whose lads would render a tractor scrap within two years if they didn't like it and even if they did, it would be ruined within 2000 hours. No greasing and missed oil changes from one year to the next combined with general careless and rough driving.
Even pampered machinery does break down sometimes of course and things do wear out eventually. 3500 hours on a well looked after tractor is a good gamble though, especially on a popular brand and model.
 

HDAV

Member
Not sure about a “good seat” but got a seat for £60 delivered.....cheaper than having old seat recovered even if half the foam wasn’t missing

I think I might know those lads did they move east and buy a boat?
 

HDAV

Member

No idea about seller or provenance but something like this might be nice compared to a 45yr old.
Always worth checking first https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/has-anyone-heard-of-dtp-tractors-near-york.179330/
 
I'm in Tyrone in N. Ireland. There are a few local mechanics who do all my father and father in laws work so they will be my go to for any issues.

I know upping the budget should get me a better tractor but it's hard to justify spending so much on what is really a hobby. I have 11 cattle right now...

My father in law let's me use a shed with an open yard 3 miles up the road to fatten up bulls so it's a case of one weekend drawing a bale up and putting it in the ring feeder and the next wknd getting a bag of meal. A loader will mean I can unload the meal myself and when drawing up a bale I can drop it in the ring feeder and not need any help to move it.

I hate borrowing machinery and coordinating to have them there to help me so having a bit of equipment that means I can potter away myself and be independent is really all I need.

Plus if I told the wife I was spending £15k on a tractor for my "hobby" I think she'd kick me out 😂
Not the right wife then 😓
 

DeclanM

Member
Livestock Farmer
Finally took the plunge and bought a 02 2650!
 

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