I wouldn’t consider a Volvo due to a couple of reasons , one is the Volvo dealer has a cartel on the market and gives poor service , it’s bad when a very big contractor who always runs Volvo loaders had his l90 breakdown , it broke a half shaft , Volvo would not give him a replacement machine during silage season and he had to go to the komastu dealer who gave him a second hand back up machine to keep him going , also the new Volvo now has a deutz engine , you know them well , like your fendt engine that blew up on you.
JCB 434/416 opinions
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What about the Volvo if you can find one at the right sort of money. If I ever buy a shovel a Volvo would be top of my list.
Edit Posted before it read the whole thread but stand by my reply.
If you could get a 10 year old Volvo with 6-8000 hrs you would have a great loader at not huge money. The only downside to the older Volvos are the 3 little levers for the hydraulics instead of a joystick like all other machines.
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The 3 levers are ok when you get used to them, and less to go wrong.
If you are pushing up silage for long days they are hard on the wrist. A friend of mine has a l90 and he wears sport support bandages on his wrist when at silage , but he would be doing 18 hour days.
Speedstar
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Which world do you live in ? the 2 Volvo shovels at R C Baker sale both made very good money
Speedstar
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You must be a Dreamer I have never had a Deutz engine blow up & had a Volvo L90 coming on demo last year but it did not have a Deutz engine in it it was a Volvo motor & at the last min it never came as it was bought by a guy with broken down Komastu that needed a shovel right away it had a joystick in it & was 50kph.
deutz AG make all volvo badged engines between 4 and 8 litres, but that isnt a new thing, it started around 2000 iirc, so i wouldnt be worried about it. nothing wrong with a komatsu shovel IMO, all makes can break down, Komatsu was the worlds largest excavator manufacturer for a time so they know what they are doing. in fairness james said the older volvos dont have the joystick which is true, and i dont think he was trying to say you would get a 2nd hand volvo for cheap.
Don’t mind Speedstar talking shite , like his 29 mpg fendt tractor , that had its engine fully rebuilt which he still describes as a modification , new pistons and liners is some modification, he runs a toy Jcb loader to push up the few acres is silage that he cuts , the vast majority of big silage contractors here have switched away from Jcb loaders to komastu , Volvo , and New Holland here , still a few Jcb men now buying the 435 models , the Jcb 418 was a total disaster of a troublesome machine and turned a lot of contractors to better quality machines. Also as far as I know there have been no Ag spec komastu loaders sold in the uk so it’s interesting for speedstar to come up with that story. Hard to believe anything out of him after his world record mpg story.
How many ac per year do you lift James? How much per day would you normally lift?
Wellytrack
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I don’t know why these get so much hate, there has been more grass pushed with JCB than anything else.
ollie989898
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Volvo loaders have their Volvo penta engine in I thought?
You can spec them with a joystick, if you want, can even have two 2 sticks if you want, one on the left for steering as well.
You can spec them with a joystick, if you want, can even have two 2 sticks if you want, one on the left for steering as well.
ollie989898
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It is no secret that JCB 414/416 used to suffer with diff issues. I presume the 434 is built a lot heavier.
Having driven a slew of the things, all of different ages, and 437, I wasn't that impressed.
Only 3000 , most of it with 2 wagons and a third on long draws and the bigger jobs.
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ollie989898
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That is a nice loader, but there is no way I would drive any machine and 'flick' silage all day. Sooner have a push off rake on the front. Easy life.
I got that 14 ft fork made with 16” between the teeth , so I don’t actually be doing that much flicking , as i travel up the pit I just slowly tilt down the fork with the tip just up off the grass , the grass slides off and falls through the tines . Not much different to using a push off .
We do that on one farm locally,keeps us busy
ollie989898
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Ah ok, that makes a lot more sense, you see guys on youtube flicking the fork all day, fudge that for a lark.
It depends on the pit size how fast we bring in the grass , the loader determins the output , on the bigger jobs we do 150 acres a day, I have one job of 280 acres and we usually do it in two days .
Only wearing out the machine for nothing .