Brexit is destroying Britain

Ashtree

Member
All responses from all countries however well intentioned, are to Putin, like peeing on an inferno. No real impact in the short to medium term. By the time these sanctions scratch the surface, Ukraine will be a puppet state, run by a puppet regime.
Now, if China were to put a big squeeze on from the other side, that along with the squeeze from the west, would severely pinch the people of Russia (sadly), and happily make them protest in ever greater numbers. The only thing Putin will listen to, is overwhelming protest from within his own borders.
 

robs1

Member
All responses from all countries however well intentioned, are to Putin, like peeing on an inferno. No real impact in the short to medium term. By the time these sanctions scratch the surface, Ukraine will be a puppet state, run by a puppet regime.
Now, if China were to put a big squeeze on from the other side, that along with the squeeze from the west, would severely pinch the people of Russia (sadly), and happily make them protest in ever greater numbers. The only thing Putin will listen to, is overwhelming protest from within his own borders.
Blimey yourev talking sense and I totally agree, keep it up , I'm off for a lie down in a dark room, "nurse where is my medicine" 😄😄
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
putin pee'd on macrons chips ,he doesnt care about no one
No, Macron went as France holds the EU Presidency, NATO member and French President with a mandate from the others. He was sanguine about the chances but went anyway. The fact Putin invaded didn't reflect badly on Macron, it just showed Putin as the lying duplicitous barsteward that he is!
 

Ashtree

Member
No, Macron went as France holds the EU Presidency, NATO member and French President with a mandate from the others. He was sanguine about the chances but went anyway. The fact Putin invaded didn't reflect badly on Macron, it just showed Putin as the lying duplicitous barsteward that he is!
In fairness, when Liz turned up with a pallet of Stilton, and failed to scare the Ruskies, Macron stood no realistic chance. Full marks for trying though….
 
Do Switzerland, Norway and others cry when they are not invited to these councils?

For that matter, do countries in Asia, North and South America or Africa feel left out when they do not attend these councils?

Like the United Kingdom, I dare say they address the issues raised on their own and with global partners.

NATO is the defenders of Europe, not the EU. It is important to remember that and not confuse the two. And remember that the United Kingdom has the second biggest defence budget in NATO.

Remind me where the 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference took place? Glasgow, United Kingdom. That is climate change and global warming covered.

"Our environment" is our environment and our responsibility; which we do a half decent job and still working on it.

International crime is exactly that, and we - along with every other civilised country around the world - cooperate on matters of international crime, with international partners. That is what the National Crime Agency, Special Branch and Interpol are for.

And no one controls the internet - countries only restrict what can and can not be seen, read, heard online in each of their own respective jurisdictions (unless you are in the EU with minimal representation and minimal influence in the European Parliament, European Council, Council of European Union, European Commission, European Central Bank, etc. etc., and then you comply as your are instructed).

Mind you, the UK is missing out on the nice hotels, meals and parties.

As for the European "Union's" response to the crisis in the Ukraine. I think we are finally getting there, after some persuasion? Aren't we?

I can't help but compare the EU to the People's Front of Judea. Or is it the Judean People's Front?

Splitter!!

I just did a quick Google Maps search...

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Maybe I'm getting old but I wish he was still in politics, also Douglas Hurd. Be interesting to ruminate whether we'd be where we are if Thatcher was in Number 10

Haseltine, Clarke etc all all Europhiles who would sell their souls to get ever closer union.

Europe as the EEC was a fine idea. The second it got political it was a trojan horse. We don't need that, no country in Europe does.
 

Ashtree

Member
Haseltine, Clarke etc all all Europhiles who would sell their souls to get ever closer union.

Europe as the EEC was a fine idea. The second it got political it was a trojan horse. We don't need that, no country in Europe does.
Who needs a highly connected and efficient market for goods, when the alternative is queues of trucks, piles of paperwork, delays, costs, etc, etc,?
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Who needs a highly connected and efficient market for goods, when the alternative is queues of trucks, piles of paperwork, delays, costs, etc, etc,?
40 odd years for our pro EU governments with their votes and their veto's to get the EU right and the moment the people had a direct say most that bothered to vote wanted to leave, just goes to show how much our own governments fecked it up which is a shame as it could have been good
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Who needs a highly connected and efficient market for goods, when the alternative is queues of trucks, piles of paperwork, delays, costs, etc, etc,?
You miss the point again conveniently! Political union was the thing that caused the issues in the post you were replying to, not the open market and free trade agreements. I say again I voted remain and wrote to my woke MP that I did so but wanted change within the Brussels machine. The constant whining of those that voted remain and can’t let it go is now tiresome and frankly unhelpful to either side.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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