Zero Grazing

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Done the other way round here, keep highs on TMR and get them back into calf and performing well at peak,
put Low yielders onto Zero Grazing, gives them an extra boost and no meal needed.

we found Fertility is very hard to control on Zero grazed cows no matter how much the grass was managed

OK. Will pass the message on to the boss (y)

Only comment I will make is that the Highs will stay on TMR for morning feed and topped up with fresh grass PM so we can reduce parlour cake down to 16%
 

idgni

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Armagh
Only comment I will make is that the Highs will stay on TMR for morning feed and topped up with fresh grass PM so we can reduce parlour cake down to 16%
your problem there is the rumen microbes to digest Silage and TMR to maximum efficiency are similar but aren't the same as the ones for fresh Grass,
Therefore it will work to a certain extent but not gaining maximum benefit from either system.
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
OK. Will pass the message on to the boss (y)

Only comment I will make is that the Highs will stay on TMR for morning feed and topped up with fresh grass PM so we can reduce parlour cake down to 16%

Tried a mix of TMR, zero grazing and grazing here, ended giving up with ZGing for same reasons as pappuler, dirty cows, way too much variation and was always a struggle to keep the right amount of grass infront of the wagon. Fertility was up and down like a yoyo aswell.
 

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
Tried a mix of TMR, zero grazing and grazing here, ended giving up with ZGing for same reasons as pappuler, dirty cows, way too much variation and was always a struggle to keep the right amount of grass infront of the wagon. Fertility was up and down like a yoyo aswell.
I have mentioned just running the new shed of low yielders on zg grass but not sure im brave enough
 

Conrod96

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co. Antrim
We run 3 groups during the summer not much hassle the shed is well set up for it, we’ll have ones out grazing, ones on zg grass and ones on TMR don’t know how I’d feel about mixing them all the same
 
Location
southwest
Actually it wasn't a particularly good growing year for grass last year. Prolonged drought after 1st cut sent subsequent cuts to head pdq so to try and retain some quality, cuts were light and ran the risk of high residual N.
Plenty of maize though

The idea is to ZG highs only due to time from now until land is not fit to travel. Cut pm and trailing shoe watery slurry on cut bit following morning

May work, may not


So cows get fresh grass every day (just like if they were grazing) and the cows' waste gets returned to the ground (just like if they were grazing)



Perhaps the next step would be to let them out to graze and save all that time and fuel?
 

idgni

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Armagh
So cows get fresh grass every day (just like if they were grazing) and the cows' waste gets returned to the ground (just like if they were grazing)



Perhaps the next step would be to let them out to graze and save all that time and fuel?
great if you have 200 acres ring fenced around your yard,
Unfortunately not everyone is that blessed,
 
Low yielding cows should stick it better as fewer fertility issues- they'd already be in calf? The main issue with zero grazed grass will be wildly fluctuating dry matter, protein and sugar values which could change day to day. For the lower yielding herd where they aren't so finely tuned it will work with more margin for error?

If you were cutting and putting dirty water back out the same day you could soon grow some grass in a season I'm sure.
 
Location
West Wales
So cows get fresh grass every day (just like if they were grazing) and the cows' waste gets returned to the ground (just like if they were grazing)



Perhaps the next step would be to let them out to graze and save all that time and fuel?

I have plenty of days where I question my decision to graze cows. To a degree we have now got a 75% complete grazing platform and a 75% complete shed. Had I put all my eggs in one basket maybe I’d have 100% of a shed and gained more litres for it 🤷‍♂️
Either way though you have to farm to your farm.
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
I have plenty of days where I question my decision to graze cows. To a degree we have now got a 75% complete grazing platform and a 75% complete shed. Had I put all my eggs in one basket maybe I’d have 100% of a shed and gained more litres for it 🤷‍♂️
Either way though you have to farm to your farm.

I am 100% dreading grazing tomorrow whereas I would have only 75% dreaded zero grazing tomorrow.
 
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