Robm 1959
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Thinking it’s time I looked this, instead of taking the easy option of selling off the field or chopping . Anyone got any experience and tips to make it work for the best ?
Straw for muck ?
- Thread starter Robm 1959
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Set clear roles for you the arable farmer and the livestock farmer. Normally the stock farmer deals with the baling, bale hauling and mucking out. The arable farmer deals with the spreading and the hauling is split or left to one party. However you set it up it involves an element of compromise, don’t bit pick over the small details or add money into the equation. It’s a simple system which should benefit both parties for years to come.
Robm 1959
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- West Sussex
So is it normally based on an equivalent tonnage based swap ?
Robm 1959
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Seems that 1 ton of straw for 7 tons of muck is generally the way ?
Fish
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- North yorkshire
All straw in, all muck out, no money changes hands.
kiss
kiss
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- North of Perth
We do a fair bit but we get the poorer end of the deal.bale ,cart home and then back.its not cheap now.with the price of fert an diesel buying it seems more favourable for the livestock farmer.
Also if you want to know about tonnage. We weighed all the straw back from one place an weighed all the dung the other way.worked out at 1t straw to 4t dung.
Also if you want to know about tonnage. We weighed all the straw back from one place an weighed all the dung the other way.worked out at 1t straw to 4t dung.
Normally all the straw for all the muck back. Keep it nice and simple.
organicguy
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Whilst I like "kiss", as an organic livestock farmer if it is all straw in, all dung back I would be exporting a lot of nutrient. The N PK content of the dung would be much higher than straw.
I can see it working 1:1 for a pig farmer with limited acreage of his own to spread on.
I can see it working 1:1 for a pig farmer with limited acreage of his own to spread on.
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- Sutton Coldfield
We used to have muck from a dairy farm. They baled, carted and mucked out, we carted the muck and spread it.
For me one of the most important things was that we were the only supplier, we didn't want to be importing blackgrass etc.
The reason we no longer do it is because they sold up.
For me one of the most important things was that we were the only supplier, we didn't want to be importing blackgrass etc.
The reason we no longer do it is because they sold up.
In the current climate, you leave a row of straw in the field and you get all the muck delivered back, tipped in a field. If you don't get all the muck back or they take it elsewhere, deal over and chopper on next year.
Edit. As above, avoid people who buy straw from multiple sources.
Edit. As above, avoid people who buy straw from multiple sources.
My deal only involves my straw and no other bought in, so hopefully avoiding any nasties coming back.
Not so easy if there getting straw from elsewhere
Because fertiliser is so cheap right now, or what do you mean by "in the current climate"?