we are all getting the line, from all involved supplying farming, we are just going to pass it on to you, well that you might , but by heck by not taking a bit of the hit your going to lose out a hell of a lot more, very few people are going to be drawing from me now, if i keep a third less stock this year and go off farm to work which is the way i am thinking at moment, i am not subsidising everyone else while i live in total poverty.
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- Thread starter Jackov Altraids
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And they don't buy their raw materials months before they use them ,or get paid for the resulting products they have produced for months after
Good luck
Thanks ,it includes flight and a week in Las Vegas as well
I went 10 years ago for a hoilday with the now wife. It’s a eye opening place well worth the visit.
However there weren't north of 67 million population then.
They will have to pay more then!!!
if they would like a supply of food
- Location
- Essex
If you think of milk or bread as a classic example, the money is in the till within hours of arriving in the supermarket.
They then keep that money for weeks if not months. Meanwhile the producer of said wheat or milk, started investing in that product 2 to 5 years previously.
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- Essex
If you win you can carry on farming till the money runs out.
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- South Molton
Constant carp from various posters about how organic farming is not able to "feed the world".
Who is going to feed them now?
Step learning curve ahead to utilise the resources we have on this small planet.
Welcome to the new world.
Who is going to feed them now?
Step learning curve ahead to utilise the resources we have on this small planet.
Welcome to the new world.
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
very sad post to read, I am still thinking of the clip from Wales news, where the reporter talked to the climate change minister and said isn't this like the depopulation on the Epynt, with land going for planting with trees (and his anger and denial of that saying my grandfather was from The Epynt). Suddenly we will find that the UK is even less self sufficient with food, and the world market will not be selling food to export for us to buy, China realises that empty bellies cause social unrest (hence they have been buying Wheat), I wonder how come our politicians (of all parties) don't?
My old chap was a specialist farming accountant, born into a large farming family in 1912.
This place that I now farm, survived the early 20C recession using family labour and spending little or no money. Grain was mostly "walked off the farm" with added value as porkers to mainly local butchers and abattoirs. Cattle were effectively Dog and Sticked, using cheap Irish cattle brought by train from Holyhead, then running out on the grassland. Sugar beet started here in 1927, which I would assume was a huge plus, expecially as the factory was only 3 miles away!
He knew John Cherrington in passing, meeting him at a number of events I believe, and Dad recommended my reading of Cherrington's books on farming at that time when I was a young man decades ago. I then discovered the likes of AG Street.... Both writers are worth reading still, not for advice or guidance but to give a better understanding of where we have been before....
For livestock producers, it is I believe necessary to sit down and work out stocking potential with zero N in a bad year, the era of being able to "chuck a few cwt of Nitram" to get some quick Spring growth are gone... As I have found out this time!!
Sucklers are going, sheep numbers have increased ,and I'll will buy weanlings if they stack up... as in dirt cheap! Else I will simply make a bit of hay and go from there. Arable is in the hands of the Contract lads... and 1/3rd of the farm growing birds and bees. Essentially, anything that keeps the pennies coming in a bit.
Recession proof, possibly not, but we'll see!!
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
"On the smell of an oily rag" by John CheringtonMy old chap was a specialist farming accountant, born into a large farming family in 1912.
This place that I now farm, survived the recession using family labour and spending little or no money. Grain was mostly "walked off the farm" with added value as porkers to mainly local butchers and abattoirs. Cattle were effectively Dog and Sticked, using cheap Irish cattle brought by train from Holyhead running out on the grassland. Sugar beet started here in 1927, which I would assume was a huge plus, expecially as the factory was only 3 miles away!
He knew John Cherrington in passing, meeting him at a number of events I believe, and Dad recommended my reading of Cherrington's books on farming at that time when I was a young man decades ago. I then discovered the likes of AG Street.... Both writers are worth reading still, not for advice or guidance but to give a better understanding of where we have been before....
For livestock producers, it is I believe necessary to sit down and work out stocking potential with zero N in a bad year, the era of being able to "chuck a few cwt of Nitram" to get some quick Spring growth are gone... As I have found out this time!!
Sucklers are going, sheep numbers have increased ,and I'll will buy weanlings if they stack up... as in dirt cheap! Else I will simply make a bit of hay and go from there. Arable is in the hands of the Contract lads... and 1/3rd of the farm growing birds and bees. Essentially, anything that keeps the pennies coming in a bit.
Recession proof, possibly not, but we'll see!!
I truly miss proper agricultural commentators and journalists ; John(and Dan) Cherington, Oliver Walston, Philip Wrixon
I think you have hit the nail on the head a lot of these businesses are going to kill the golden goose if they don’t absorb some of the costs. Easy to say put 15-20% on but you might not have anyone to sell to soon enough.
Ivorbiggun
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- Location
- Norfolk
All you farmers do is moan, yes things are tight for you but everyone’s in the same boat, the difference is the government will bail you out and give you money for nothing as usual.
Tarw Coch
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- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Such opportunities can only be seized when things hit rock bottom, we’re a long way from that yet.
In what way will they bail us out ? No money left in the pot.
Tarw Coch
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- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Do you have any details of these government bailouts?
I’m not sure they will or indeed should