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You are more likely to get rain than here in the dryer part of the country
you are likely not to have limestone chalk based soils
spreading before a rain reduces losses to the levels of AN but it needs to rain


over here all the evidence is that earlier applications of urea are comparable to AN and losses minimal
niab and others has a lot of data that was submitted to defra to back up the nfu lead defence of urea
every farmer will befit from this paid for by members and subscribers and farmers /industry levy


Which is why urea is a good choice for me. Now I will be faced with more leaching from AN at higher cost or urea with toxins in and we have to pretend its better for the environment
 

Wheatyflake

Member
BASIS
Location
East Midlands
This is rubbish. It totally depends on the circumstances. I very often spread urea before a shower of rain in April or May

And if Urea gets regulated out then CF fertilisers have knocked out a major competitive product
I don't understand why "CF" would have knocked out a major competitor product if this is due to regulation by the Government tor reduce greenhouse gas? CF are amongst the biggest producers of urea in the world. I am not sticking up for them but it's hardly their fault. Just think of the carnage if CF left the UK and we really didn't have enough product coming into the UK as that would be impossible to replace. So, instead of knocking the only UK producer of a product we need how about looking at how difficult life would get without them. #justsaying
 

Spencer

Member
Location
North West
I don't understand why "CF" would have knocked out a major competitor product if this is due to regulation by the Government tor reduce greenhouse gas? CF are amongst the biggest producers of urea in the world. I am not sticking up for them but it's hardly their fault. Just think of the carnage if CF left the UK and we really didn't have enough product coming into the UK as that would be impossible to replace. So, instead of knocking the only UK producer of a product we need how about looking at how difficult life would get without them. #justsaying
With friends like these springs to mind...
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
I don't understand why "CF" would have knocked out a major competitor product if this is due to regulation by the Government tor reduce greenhouse gas? CF are amongst the biggest producers of urea in the world. I am not sticking up for them but it's hardly their fault. Just think of the carnage if CF left the UK and we really didn't have enough product coming into the UK as that would be impossible to replace. So, instead of knocking the only UK producer of a product we need how about looking at how difficult life would get without them. #justsaying

I doubt they’d be uprooting their factories and taking them back to the US. But at the same time their new owners are unlikely to be benefactors of British farming like Peter Melchetts grandfathers were, the Baron Mondes of ICI.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
I don't understand why "CF" would have knocked out a major competitor product if this is due to regulation by the Government tor reduce greenhouse gas? CF are amongst the biggest producers of urea in the world. I am not sticking up for them but it's hardly their fault. Just think of the carnage if CF left the UK and we really didn't have enough product coming into the UK as that would be impossible to replace. So, instead of knocking the only UK producer of a product we need how about looking at how difficult life would get without them. #justsaying
CF did leave the UK market. The only reason they are in it now is because of UK government subsidising CO2 production.
They had the gas, but chose to sell it rather than produce fertiliser with it. They have proven themselves to be an unreliable supplier (by there own actions in selling their already purchased gas, not events outside their control.)
They may produce Urea in large quantities, but that hasn't stopped them continually promoting misleading data within the UK to promote AN over Urea.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
I doubt they’d be uprooting their factories and taking them back to the US. But at the same time their new owners are unlikely to be benefactors of British farming like Peter Melchetts grandfathers were, the Baron Mondes of ICI.
With their own farms in the area and everything.
 

Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
So, apparently this is what the future of British agriculture looks like 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Zero N, P or K just fym and clover
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some how I doubt I’ll be able to get enough fym to cover our total acreage though 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
The soil fertility equation was fatally damaged when the horse gave way to the tractor.

In fact, things first started to go downhill when horses gradually took over from oxen.

We've always had a nitrogen shortage since the dawn of agriculture. Now is not the time for govt ministers to pretend we don't need N.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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