- Location
- East yorks
it is but it certainly makes it more interesting than wheat at £60 a tonne.
Anybody considering suspending production for a year?
- Thread starter DrWazzock
- Start date
it is but it certainly makes it more interesting than wheat at £60 a tonne.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
demand for what though ?
there is only a very limited amount of fresh food that the average household can store.
If there is any panic buying of food, it will be canned, dry goods, non perishables etc . . .
A lot of which I’m guessing would still be imported ?
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
I dont think thats what he meant
Grain demand worldwide is what he meant
Prices are going to stay up and govt rewilding nonsense will be ignored quite rightly.
Bit like the titanic captain telling passengers not to worry, the ships unsinkable but they get off anyway
4course
Member
- Location
- north yorks
out and about this last couple of days ,there are a few but not that many crops that look short of nitrogen , it could be the benign winter effect but most look to have had more or less the same as usual and a fair % look outstanding, where it does look as if applications have been cut back a bit is on grass
- Location
- Essex
It's nothing to do with the government. The corporate food system has every intention of paying low prices while they can for as long as they can. They don't have to though, but farmers just keep giving stock away.
IIRC, during the first lockdown, numpties were hoarding spuds......which were put out for the bin man 4 weeks later. 
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I hope if food gets short, people remember who has been advocating tree planting for carbon offsetting and rewilding. Of course they won't. They will blame whichever party is in government. First two jobs of any government are:
* Stop the country being invaded.
* Keep food available for the population.
Not getting the police to question people who offend others by using the wrong pronouns on social media posts!
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
With adversity comes innovation. I’ve been watching a few you tube videos on regenerative agriculture and a lot of people changed because they’d run out of money after some catastrophic event such as a hailstorm or bushfire maybe extreme fertiliser prices is another catastrophic event.
- Location
- Cirencester
Marginal ground, no staff, no mortgage and diversified income and it's a no brainer. The money I spend growing crops I could spend on more buildings/conversions etc, no nonsense RT to deal with either.
Your idea that and average of 8t/ha is normal is a way off the mark for here on brash, be more like 6-7, 7 in a good year.
Trouble is that we are the ones taking a much larger risk for not a greater reward (although we do not know what prices will do) so I guess it comes down to the fact do you feel lucky or not, all the spreadsheets in the world wont tell you what will happen!! But I guess you can run through various scenarios to see where you're at
GeorgeK
Member
- Location
- Leicestershire
The Heads of the World Bank Group, IMF, WFP and WTO Call for Urgent Coordinated Action on Food Security.
"We call on the international community to urgently ... increase domestic agricultural production"
Meanwhile the UK government reveal an artists impression of their long awaited agricultural land policy:
"We call on the international community to urgently ... increase domestic agricultural production"
Joint Statement: The Heads of the World Bank Group, IMF, WFP and WTO Call for Urgent Coordinated Action on Food Security
Joint Statement: The Heads of the World Bank Group, IMF, WFP and WTO Call for Urgent Coordinated Action on Food Security
www.imf.org
Meanwhile the UK government reveal an artists impression of their long awaited agricultural land policy:
Can’t disagree with that
Our FBT land has had four doses of chicken manure in the last 8 years.
We don’t need lime, we’ve used a lot of chicken muck over the last 8 years so it is fertile. Our average wheat yield is about 9.7t/ha with 200kg/n.
it is a high stakes game, but then planting a crop always is!
So……. Set-aside in all but name. And protesting over prices. I’m getting a sense of deja vu…..
- Location
- Devon
Who is responsible for food security and availability?
The "corporate food system" is only responsible for making money for its shareholders.
Just because the government are doing nothing, doesn't mean its nothing to do with them.
It should be nothing to do with the NFU. The have rather mistakenly, put the interests of everyone else over that of their members.
- Location
- Essex
Good point. We are where we are because of a lack of controls, profiteering and restrictive practice for the benefit of everyone who buys from or sells to farmers. Finally the penny is dropping, just as supplies are starting to look a bit shaky, at the same time farmers are planning significant cuts in production.
It's going to be an interesting ride.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
if the penny is starting to drop, why is the Welsh Government still giving grants to plant trees on Welsh farmland?
- Location
- Essex
Up to individual land owners to decide what they do on their land.if the penny is starting to drop, why is the Welsh Government still giving grants to plant trees on Welsh farmland?
That's a sign of a loss of confidence in the future of farming in the UK.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
we don't have the up to individual land owners in the UK, on the one hand government tilts the playing field with incentives and grants, and if it was up to the individual landowners the countryside would be covered in bungalows, which isn't allowed.