Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I'm inclined to think that the best way to think about a small farm, and by that I'm talking sub 300ac arable, is simply as a store of value and a nice place to live. I'm pushed to call what I do a job when I spend perhaps no more than 30 days a year actually working. I'm hoping my children will simply keep it as a "home base" while working abroad to make some real money.
That’s what it’s becoming. Toss up now between spending the next 6 weeks in the bowels of my combine harvester spending time and money on spares or just picking up the phone to cousin and getting him combine it in the summer with his mega machine. Leaning towards telephone farming and doing other things then at least when crops shrivel you haven’t invested your own time in them, just money. And money is worth a lot less than time.
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
Good morning Doc,

the words of your post reverberated through my consciousness and stopped me in my tracks this morning. Just recently, our 94 year-old neighbour declined all medication and said that she just wanted to go home and when informed that returning to her house was quite possible just then , she pointed heavenwards and said 'home'!
I'm currently sat in hospital with my 88 year old father. He's in exactly that same position. Medically he has oedema due to kidney problems but mentally he no longer wants to live as he can't do the things anymore that he feels make life tolerable. I can't blame him.

So sad to watch.
 

bumkin

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
pembrokeshire
I think that if major things happen here I’ll go back to Scotland. 70 years ago this week, grandfather moved down here . He said, that if he could, he would have sold this farm the day after he’d bought it. Might soon be time to go home. My work here is nearly done.
moving is a very stressful thing I moved thirty-two years ago and I must say for a time I was homesick it was strange going to town and not seeing anyone I knew where I used to live I was born and raised and went to school here I am just a blow in I have a couple of pals here now, and now when I go back everything has changed I don't know the place most of my age group have fallen off their perches, I wouldn't go back now it would mean starting all over, so be careful what you wish for
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
My mind is all over the place really. Soon my brothers kids will be old enough to help to on the farm in a useful way, if they want to. My wife isn’t that well with a poor outlook, My mother is getting on. Father gone. I have no kids. If I lose my wife and mother, and I hope that won’t be for a long time but I have to be realistic, then I wouldn’t really want to remain here as the awkward old uncle. I think it would be right to let my brother and his family have a free hand. I might pass on first but I think it’s good to have a bit of a plan. I have as many relatives in Scotland as I do down here so one thought was to go back North. And as said I feel I have done all I can here. It’s a partnership. Not been a bad one. But I’d like to leave it in reasonable shape for my brother and his family to take it forward, rather than have too many people squabbling over a limited acreage. And frankly I really do feel like a change.
Secretly I’ve always wondered what it would be like to arrive in a new town with just a suitcase and start again. I sort of did that in my twenties and worked in cities till I was 35. I don’t think I made the most of it. Maybe I could get it right this time.🙂
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I'm currently sat in hospital with my 88 year old father. He's in exactly that same position. Medically he has oedema due to kidney problems but mentally he no longer wants to live as he can't do the things anymore that he feels make life tolerable. I can't blame him.

So sad to watch.
Sorry to hear that. It’s almost as difficult mentally for nearest and dearest as it is for the actual patient. You feel for them. It’s difficult to offer reassurance. They aren’t stupid and know what’s what. My wife is having a hell of a job to come to terms with her diagnosis. Her life will never be the same again. Staying positive isn’t easy at all. Best wishes.
 

bumkin

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
pembrokeshire
My mind is all over the place really. Soon my brothers kids will be old enough to help to on the farm in a useful way, if they want to. My wife isn’t that well with a poor outlook, My mother is getting on. Father gone. I have no kids. If I lose my wife and mother, and I hope that won’t be for a long time but I have to be realistic, then I wouldn’t really want to remain here as the awkward old uncle. I think it would be right to let my brother and his family have a free hand. I might pass on first but I think it’s good to have a bit of a plan. I have as many relatives in Scotland as I do down here so one thought was to go back North. And as said I feel I have done all I can here. It’s a partnership. Not been a bad one. But I’d like to leave it in reasonable shape for my brother and his family to take it forward, rather than have too many people squabbling over a limited acreage. And frankly I really do feel like a change.
Secretly I’ve always wondered what it would be like to arrive in a new town with just a suitcase and start again. I sort of did that in my twenties and worked in cities till I was 35. I don’t think I made the most of it. Maybe I could get it right this time.🙂
the thing is when you are young it's easy to make friends all the pubs' clubs and bars are full of young folk being sociable when one gets older it's not so easy, also most people have got their circle of friends and don't need to add to it,
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Never found socialising easy at any age. I’d say in my age group now there are more unattached folk than I’ve seen for 30 years due to divorce, lost partner for some reason, kids moving away. I’m married and busy enough with my partner but if I wasn’t I’d be heading off to church or voluntary groups. Not necessarily to “grab a gran” but just for social interaction.
 
Never found socialising easy at any age. I’d say in my age group now there are more unattached folk than I’ve seen for 30 years due to divorce, lost partner for some reason, kids moving away. I’m married and busy enough with my partner but if I wasn’t I’d be heading off to church or voluntary groups. Not necessarily to “grab a gran” but just for social interaction.

I often frequent charity shops and have noticed that widows and widowers do put in some time helping out behind the counters and in the stock rooms but have often been disappointed by how little time the staff spend socialising with donors and customers.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
My mind is all over the place really. Soon my brothers kids will be old enough to help to on the farm in a useful way, if they want to. My wife isn’t that well with a poor outlook, My mother is getting on. Father gone. I have no kids. If I lose my wife and mother, and I hope that won’t be for a long time but I have to be realistic, then I wouldn’t really want to remain here as the awkward old uncle. I think it would be right to let my brother and his family have a free hand. I might pass on first but I think it’s good to have a bit of a plan. I have as many relatives in Scotland as I do down here so one thought was to go back North. And as said I feel I have done all I can here. It’s a partnership. Not been a bad one. But I’d like to leave it in reasonable shape for my brother and his family to take it forward, rather than have too many people squabbling over a limited acreage. And frankly I really do feel like a change.
Secretly I’ve always wondered what it would be like to arrive in a new town with just a suitcase and start again. I sort of did that in my twenties and worked in cities till I was 35. I don’t think I made the most of it. Maybe I could get it right this time.🙂
I have an escape bag. It's a rucksack with a change of clothes, my passport, and about a grand in cash. It's reassuring to me that if it every got too shitty here I could just vanish and start again. I'd go pick fruit in the States and ride the rails.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I have an escape bag. It's a rucksack with a change of clothes, my passport, and about a grand in cash. It's reassuring to me that if it every got too shitty here I could just vanish and start again. I'd go pick fruit in the States and ride the rails.
Fantastic idea. Even knowing its there and that's a option must help.
 

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