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Because large estates will divide up into ltd companies to avoid bps capSo a limited company cant claim BPS? Why?
Because large estates will divide up into ltd companies to avoid bps capSo a limited company cant claim BPS? Why?
Bfu will not be funded, sponsored or otherwise financed by anyone other than farmers, which is why the NFU cannot act in the interest of farmers.Hence the difficulty of being a farmers union! Different farming sectors are fundamentally dependent on the hardship of the other sectors to thrive! Almost impossible to represent some without letting down others!
Tenants v landowners
Livestock v crop
AHA vs FBT
Small v big
Let me know how you get on! Perhaps you'll realise why the NFU can't win!
Sometimes there are fundamental things that are wrong and need changing for the benefit of everyone. Red Tractor is the NFU's elephant in the room. (there are other elephants too; corporate membership, omov .....and I'm sure others can be added)Hence the difficulty of being a farmers union! Different farming sectors are fundamentally dependent on the hardship of the other sectors to thrive! Almost impossible to represent some without letting down others!
Tenants v landowners
Livestock v crop
AHA vs FBT
Small v big
Let me know how you get on! Perhaps you'll realise why the NFU can't win!
The nfu favours the large farmers who have time to attend meetingsSometimes there are fundamental things that are wrong and need changing for the benefit of everyone. Red Tractor is the NFU's elephant in the room
This is where I am hoping that the BFU will have the greatest effect.
Get the root causes sorted and there'll be no need to fanny round at the edges at splinter issues.
Well I disagree with 1,2 and 4.
Plenty of farmers operate under a company structure.
So those that have diversified or saved get penalised?
Why would converting FBT to AHA combat famine?
With most of that. Why the Fbt to convert to AHA?Key demands;
Bps restricted to £50,000 per farmer claimant, no companies or NGO to get a penny.
Means tested
Rt scrapped
Fbt tenancies converted to AHA overnight to combat coming famine.
MAFF reinstated
It may have been asked already, but how is BFU going to be premoted to non TFF farmer members across the uk ?
Running large adverts in say the Farmers Weekly / Farmers Guardian will not be cheap but surely necessary.
print medua reach is small these days vs online
i suspect word will spread quickly and in time a mechanism to join offline will be created
early days, crossing bridges as we meet them
Short term leases were identified in ww2 as a key impediment to food production as rents were too high and no one invested in the land or did anything long term.With most of that. Why the Fbt to convert to AHA?
print medua reach is small these days vs online
i suspect word will spread quickly and in time a mechanism to join offline will be created
early days, crossing bridges as we meet them
Where do we join up?
A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.If the levels of produce is not there .ie world shortage they have to play ball a bit ,unless they want empty shelves .their profits will not be too clever then. It is not like our farming world is a bed of roses , hence why there is a need to think out the box and TRY to do something to make it better. IF we don,t try we will fail, the industry needs a body which is WHOLLY on its side.
The alternative continue for as long as we can hold out ,gradually losing critical mass producing produce at less than the cost of production, sounds great too that.A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
you are correct about the public view of farmers.The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
The control and domination of the food budget by the corporate food system is not doing the public much good either. In fact it's hard to see a situation where the customer will be worse off.A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
No you are right but a challenge can be spun to alienate the public further.The alternative continue for as long as we can hold out ,gradually losing critical mass producing produce at less than the cost of production, sounds great too that.
I've just spent a month in hospital, not once have I had any negative reaction when people have found out I'm a farmer, whether staff, patients or visitors, they have all been very interested and said how hard work it isNo you are right but a challenge can be spun to alienate the public further.
.... only in political circles?!An MP told me the Nfu were a laughing stock in political circles. They are known for being a push over.
... and a Welsh version Undeb Ffermio PrydainFor those co-ordinating ;
have the website domains been claimed?
BFU.co.uk ,.org , .com
Britishfarmingunion.co.uk ,.org .com
I think this needs to be actioned asap