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Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Hence the difficulty of being a farmers union! Different farming sectors are fundamentally dependent on the hardship of the other sectors to thrive! Almost impossible to represent some without letting down others!

Tenants v landowners
Livestock v crop
AHA vs FBT
Small v big

Let me know how you get on! Perhaps you'll realise why the NFU can't win!
Bfu will not be funded, sponsored or otherwise financed by anyone other than farmers, which is why the NFU cannot act in the interest of farmers.

Also landlords are not farmers.

Cropping and feed merchant are different entities.
 

onesiedale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Hence the difficulty of being a farmers union! Different farming sectors are fundamentally dependent on the hardship of the other sectors to thrive! Almost impossible to represent some without letting down others!

Tenants v landowners
Livestock v crop
AHA vs FBT
Small v big

Let me know how you get on! Perhaps you'll realise why the NFU can't win!
Sometimes there are fundamental things that are wrong and need changing for the benefit of everyone. Red Tractor is the NFU's elephant in the room. (there are other elephants too; corporate membership, omov .....and I'm sure others can be added)
This is where I am hoping that the BFU will have the greatest effect.

Get the root causes sorted and there'll be no need to fanny round at the edges at splinter issues.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Sometimes there are fundamental things that are wrong and need changing for the benefit of everyone. Red Tractor is the NFU's elephant in the room
This is where I am hoping that the BFU will have the greatest effect.

Get the root causes sorted and there'll be no need to fanny round at the edges at splinter issues.
The nfu favours the large farmers who have time to attend meetings
That needs changed
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It may have been asked already, but how is BFU going to be premoted to non TFF farmer members across the uk ?
Running large adverts in say the Farmers Weekly / Farmers Guardian will not be cheap but surely necessary.

print medua reach is small these days vs online

i suspect word will spread quickly and in time a mechanism to join offline will be created

early days, crossing bridges as we meet them
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
print medua reach is small these days vs online

i suspect word will spread quickly and in time a mechanism to join offline will be created

early days, crossing bridges as we meet them
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heavy Duty "Bailye Bridges" I trust, @Clive ..... ;)
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
With most of that. Why the Fbt to convert to AHA?
Short term leases were identified in ww2 as a key impediment to food production as rents were too high and no one invested in the land or did anything long term.
Thats why AHA legislation was introduced in 1947.
This removed the landlords right to evict and charge the highest rent.
Farming now needs more stability, just like 1947 and AHA can provide that.
 

graham mc

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
East Yorkshire
print medua reach is small these days vs online

i suspect word will spread quickly and in time a mechanism to join offline will be created

early days, crossing bridges as we meet them

farmers have plenty of prime time space on sides of large roads etc. Can also use farm owned lorry or tractor trailers or even wheel covers on 4x4 its amazing what can be down without spending or wasting millions
 

puntabrava

Member
Location
Wiltshire
If the levels of produce is not there .ie world shortage they have to play ball a bit ,unless they want empty shelves .their profits will not be too clever then. It is not like our farming world is a bed of roses , hence why there is a need to think out the box and TRY to do something to make it better. IF we don,t try we will fail, the industry needs a body which is WHOLLY on its side.
A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
 

devonbeef

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon UK
A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
The alternative continue for as long as we can hold out ,gradually losing critical mass producing produce at less than the cost of production, sounds great too that.
 

onesiedale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
you are correct about the public view of farmers.
However, it is not the desire to have a greater control over their weekly food spend. The control of that has already been sewn up by corporates, oil companies and finance companies. (look at how the weekly spend is divided up)
If anything, breaking the corporate handles over our food production will help to give some control over Joe Public's weekly food spend back to the consumer.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
A fair few tried to out do their neighbours by joining Red Tractor and proclaiming superiority over the rest of us, that has panned out well for them hasn’t it! Any government here has only ever paid lip service to the farming industry and its representatives and will continue to do so until famine strikes. The majority public view of farmers is not great, they will be thrilled when you try to demolish the nfu because you desire stronger control of their weekly food spend and remove organisations you put in place to be less accountable for your goods.
The control and domination of the food budget by the corporate food system is not doing the public much good either. In fact it's hard to see a situation where the customer will be worse off.

The supermarkets are willfully destroying perfectly sound businesses, for instance egg producers. In a few months time, eggs could easily double in price and at the same time be short, which will benefit absolutely no one and is completely avoidable.
 

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