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Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Agree, but I think you’ll find that Gordon Brown’s reign as Chancellor has been the single biggest disaster for the UK as a whole (not just farming) in living memory. The seeds of the UK’s destruction were mainly sown by him.

Actually they were more like strong saplings.
I have to agree with every word of this. Selling the UK gold reserves for a pittance and building hospitals etc on PFI are only 2 examples but we are straying off topic
 

Bramble

Member
So...back on topic...urea curently available at £740 (?), Nitram mentioned above at £770, new season AN ???, so is there any reason not to go 100% urea for 2022/23 season?
Not that I can see IMHO. Urea @£1.60/unit of N, any Nitram/imported N/blend etc I found is well over £2/unit, I reckon new season stuff will be around the £2 mark. Weakening £ and early BPS payment is only another upward pressure

Wheat for this autumn at over £300 should pay for it, less sure about current milk/beef/sheep prices covering it though.

Bought 3 loads of urea last week which is about 70% of my N requirement, after I convinced myself of the above🤔🤔
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
So...back on topic...urea curently available at £740 (?), Nitram mentioned above at £770, new season AN ???, so is there any reason not to go 100% urea for 2022/23 season?
None whatsoever.
I have only used AN once in the last 30 years. It just so happened that the price/KgN was cheaper than Urea that year.
I used the same KgsN/ha as I would have done with Urea and my yields went down. I’d actually got some urea left over from the year before. Enough to do 2 fields and they yielded what they should have done.

The talk of AN being better than Urea is just a big con, because we don’t make Urea in the UK.
And you only need 2 dressings of it instead of 3.
It even works as a late dressing for Milling wheat to boost protein, providing you get it on early enough.
 

e3120

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
thats what lime is for......
My understanding is that fully utilised urea has no acidification effect, whereas AN, and AS in particular, lower the pH. I would like to understand about unattractive grass. Lashed salt on the usual patches a couple of years ago, but couldn't see much benefit. Suspect unavoidable in a high N - highly stocked system.
 

Nitrams

Member
Location
Cornwall
My understanding is that fully utilised urea has no acidification effect, whereas AN, and AS in particular, lower the pH. I would like to understand about unattractive grass. Lashed salt on the usual patches a couple of years ago, but couldn't see much benefit. Suspect unavoidable in a high N - highly stocked system.
I know which on eats the fert spreader out quickest
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
So...back on topic...urea curently available at £740 (?), Nitram mentioned above at £770, new season AN ???, so is there any reason not to go 100% urea for 2022/23 season?
No, it’s pretty much what I’m doing other than the carry over of AN I had from this year
This is one of the best aspects of using solid v liquid fert imo, over the past few years I’ve used many different N and S products, Urea, AN, AS,Urea + S Polysulphate, kieserite etc to get the best value unit costs and have bought many products early and put in the shed, it’s much harder to take advantage and with a limited choice of products with liquid
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
No, it’s pretty much what I’m doing other than the carry over of AN I had from this year
This is one of the best aspects of using solid v liquid fert imo, over the past few years I’ve used many different N and S products, Urea, AN, AS,Urea + S Polysulphate, kieserite etc to get the best value unit costs and have bought many products early and put in the shed, it’s much harder to take advantage and with a limited choice of products with liquid
Very true, I would hate to go back to solid but am very aware of these things. Ideally muck, Fibrophos or similar, gypsum etc used as much as possible with liquid to top if the N requirements.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Very true, I would hate to go back to solid but am very aware of these things. Ideally muck, Fibrophos or similar, gypsum etc used as much as possible with liquid to top if the N requirements.
This was my first year on liquid, but I think I'm going to buy urea for first application on winter crops.

Urea will allow me to apply it on a frost which I can't do with liquid. I made a mess of field and crops with first application of liquid this year.

Where tractor was losing grip and reduced forward speed the pressure wasn't high enough to maintain a pattern on nozzles.

Resulted in tartan fields. Probably didn't help sprayer on a fastcrap.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
This was my first year on liquid, but I think I'm going to buy urea for first application on winter crops.

Urea will allow me to apply it on a frost which I can't do with liquid. I made a mess of field and crops with first application of liquid this year.

Where tractor was losing grip and reduced forward speed the pressure wasn't high enough to maintain a pattern on nozzles.

Resulted in tartan fields. Probably didn't help sprayer on a fastcrap.
My sprayer's mounted on a fairly light TM155 and on pretty wide tyres. The beauty of liquid is part of it is pretty instantaneous so I can go a little later. I can see your point though, I've been on liquid for 5 years now and can still find it stressful.
 

Barleymow

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Ipswich
The driver told me 3 or 4 weeks ago that the load I had delivered was bagged the day before straight out of the factory. This was Billingham I think.
That was in response to a direct question where I specifically asked him how big a heap did he see stockpiled. 🤷‍♂️
That's probably because the storage sheds are full🤣🤣
 

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