State of your crops -2022

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Crops generally looking good, (apart from some OSR) but too much blackgrass around. We generally do better in a dry year, but not this dry!!
Flags just coming out and they look pretty small, but they never look as good now as they used to 30 years ago, is it varietal?
Spring crops not suffering too much yet.
Nelson after peas looks topping.
Later wheat has much bigger leaves. I'll get some side by side when ears are out. Thin stuff that was rolled until almost dead has twice the leaves of the "better" stuff.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Do you see a link between using PGR and skinnings? My brother says it’s a clear link. Probably not an issue these few years with the price of feed though.
No. I don't even think skinning affects germination very much according to some people.

It's just a excuse to reject loads and for deductions.

We'd use a lot of pgr and touch wood up until now had no issues with skinning.

I've a feeling there won't be many loads rejected this harvest.
 

Timbo1080

Member
Location
Somerset
It takes all the chaff material.
it’s exactly the same whether we have chopped or rowed up straw
Thanks. Perhaps I was a bit vague......If the BG is in lines behind the combine, then hasn't that BG seed predominantly come over the rotors? All of the Seed destructors & collectors/baggers/chaff collectors that i've seen over the last decade or so, only collect or destroy the material that has gone over the sieves.

The sieves would have spread the BG seed wider than than the body of the combine (Wider than the swath line), so the lines of BG seed would be perhaps 6-8m wide? Does the most recent seed mill take the material that comes out of the rotors too?

TIA Tim
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
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as it’s important to show the good and the bad, this is quite an extreme example of blackgrass straight behind the combine in some second wheat. Quite a poor bit of soil and usually does have blackgrass. The crop in the wheelings is perhaps slightly thinner than the crop inbetween but no way near enough to let this much BG grow!
My guess would be that the combine wheels/tracks have caused more seed to soil contact and soil disturbance causing a flush of bg. It’s not necessarily what came through the combine. However I’m only guessing.
Also been firmer it will probably be holding moisture better which bg like I believe?
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Thanks. Perhaps I was a bit vague......If the BG is in lines behind the combine, then hasn't that BG seed predominantly come over the rotors? All of the Seed destructors & collectors/baggers/chaff collectors that i've seen over the last decade or so, only collect or destroy the material that has gone over the sieves.

The sieves would have spread the BG seed wider than than the body of the combine (Wider than the swath line), so the lines of BG seed would be perhaps 6-8m wide? Does the most recent seed mill take the material that comes out of the rotors too?

TIA Tim
I don’t know. niab had one last year and saw very good reductions. Ive seen very similar results to what I am showing in that picture with the EMAR chaff deck, which essentially puts all the chaff in strips behind combine including weed seeds. The seed control unit goes one better and makes the seed unviable.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
My guess would be that the combine wheels/tracks have caused more seed to soil contact and soil disturbance causing a flush of bg. It’s not necessarily what came through the combine. However I’m only guessing.
Also been firmer it will probably be holding moisture better which bg like I believe?
Yes partly but never seen this until our latest combine, even when we used to have way more blackgrass.
I’ve heard some people with new lexicons have needed chaff spreaders re calibrated/new software. I think there is an issue with ours which has inadvertently showed us that a lot of viable seed goes through the combine.
Anyway we’re doing this 2 year trial on the seed control unit so should be interesting, and I get an expensive bit of gear for free for a while!
 

where is hardy

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BASE UK Member
Location
Cambridge
Champion wheat DD following beans drilled 9/10/21 @ 150kg/ha
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ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
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Blackgrassy second wheat. Whatever we do these fields always have a certain level on.
someone the other day told me, after I was getting wound up abit that I needed to forget my ego/pride and just make sure we keep it at economic levels.
should really have gone into a spring crop. This field always yields well and I’ve seen it do 10t/ha with much worse BG than this.
The last few years history on these fields was 10t/ha really blackgrassy wheat, 8t/ha spring barley, 3t/ha osr, 10t/ha slightly blackgrassy wheat and now this current crop of second wheat. It had been continuous wheat for 30 odd years before that which is to blame for having a big BG seed bank. Any thoughts?
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
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Blackgrassy second wheat. Whatever we do these fields always have a certain level on.
someone the other day told me, after I was getting wound up abit that I needed to forget my ego/pride and just make sure we keep it at economic levels.
should really have gone into a spring crop. This field always yields well and I’ve seen it do 10t/ha with much worse BG than this.
The last few years history on these fields was 10t/ha really blackgrassy wheat, 8t/ha spring barley, 3t/ha osr, 10t/ha slightly blackgrassy wheat and now this current crop of second wheat. It had been continuous wheat for 30 odd years before that which is to blame for having a big BG seed bank. Any thoughts?
If you can control the blackgrass to such a level that you can still achieve 10t that's what I would be doing, particularly with wheat at current prices.
 

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