Fertiliser Price Tracker

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Location
highland
Sounds marvellous for arable farmers, the livestock men might not see it quite the same.
Could well see the livestock sector cutting back on feed and hence demand and some looking at growing at least some of their own.
As far as the livestock sector is concerned the cereal sector is heading for price destruction. You can have as much cereals as you like but if no one can afford to buy it ???
 

redsloe

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Location
Cornwall
Sounds marvellous for arable farmers, the livestock men might not see it quite the same.
Could well see the livestock sector cutting back on feed and hence demand and some looking at growing at least some of their own.
I know. I feed nearly 300 ton of my own cereals each year to fatten about 150 beasts. Increased grain prices mean I have to value that at 45k more this year than last, £300 per animal to stand still on feed alone.
That's nearly 100p/kg on my 21mth old cattle. It's nowhere near that yet!
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I can’t see anything but demand distribution at the minute with the disparity between what is happening with arable prices and livestock prices.
As an arable farmer I may be looking at have a great year, but if the result is there is no livestock industry left in the UK where do I stand then? Not in a great place is my feeling.
It’s a very strange feeling being worried about further price rises! These surely are crazy times.
I think us arable farmers need to get behind the livestock guys and somehow campaign for them to receive price rises.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
I think us arable farmers need to get behind the livestock guys and somehow campaign for them to receive price rises.
Free straw!?

Seriously, supply and demand will sort things out.

No offence intended, but I can’t see many livestock farmers bring sympathetic to arable guys if poor prices.

We are a mixed farm, not changing anything dramatically here. Will keep going till money runs out and bankers on the phone.
 

Bruce Almighty

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
Free straw!?

Seriously, supply and demand will sort things out.

No offence intended, but I can’t see many livestock farmers bring sympathetic to arable guys if poor prices.

We are a mixed farm, not changing anything dramatically here. Will keep going till money runs out and bankers on the phone.
We are also a mixed farm, at the moment also not changing anything drastically except hopefully feeding cattle less grain and more forage. But I hope we will see in advance when the money may run out and stop well before then ?
 
Free straw!?

Seriously, supply and demand will sort things out.

No offence intended, but I can’t see many livestock farmers bring sympathetic to arable guys if poor prices.

We are a mixed farm, not changing anything dramatically here. Will keep going till money runs out and bankers on the phone.
Yes, I tend to agree, the market has to sort itself out, if feeding livestock isn’t paying cutbacks will have to be made, if the retailers want continued supply they will have to pay more or go short, if the market becomes short supply and demand should drive prices up.
All this volatility ain’t too much fun but hopefully the market will sort itself out, steady as she goes and watch out for the icebergs
 
Location
West Wales
Yes, I tend to agree, the market has to sort itself out, if feeding livestock isn’t paying cutbacks will have to be made, if the retailers want continued supply they will have to pay more or go short, if the market becomes short supply and demand should drive prices up.
All this volatility ain’t too much fun but hopefully the market will sort itself out, steady as she goes and watch out for the icebergs

im banking on beef being up a fair chunk by the autumn or else there will be some
Big cut backs.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
We are also a mixed farm, at the moment also not changing anything drastically except hopefully feeding cattle less grain and more forage. But I hope we will see in advance when the money may run out and stop well before then ?
Ordered 7 loads fert this past week. Enough to see us through till this time next year. 2 AN, 2 NS, 1 urea, 2 liquid on tba price.

If prices don't rise will be having some interesting discussions with bank.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Free straw!?

Seriously, supply and demand will sort things out.

No offence intended, but I can’t see many livestock farmers bring sympathetic to arable guys if poor prices.

We are a mixed farm, not changing anything dramatically here. Will keep going till money runs out and bankers on the phone.
Fair enough. Yes, supply and demand will sort things out, but at what cost?

Could be casualties.
 

Bruce Almighty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
Ordered 7 loads fert this past week. Enough to see us through till this time next year. 2 AN, 2 NS, 1 urea, 2 liquid on tba price.

If prices don't rise will be having some interesting discussions with bank.
I feel your pain, ordered 3 loads AN last week & ordering urea and urea sulphur this week.
Possibly cutting use from 180 units/ac back to 150 units/ac.
Perhaps, next spring, if the future grain price is high enough and the fertiliser is cost effective we will increase rates ?
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
I know. I feed nearly 300 ton of my own cereals each year to fatten about 150 beasts. Increased grain prices mean I have to value that at 45k more this year than last, £300 per animal to stand still on feed alone.
That's nearly 100p/kg on my 21mth old cattle. It's nowhere near that yet!

sell the wheat....don't buy the beasts?
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I feel your pain, ordered 3 loads AN last week & ordering urea and urea sulphur this week.
Possibly cutting use from 180 units/ac back to 150 units/ac.
Perhaps, next spring, if the future grain price is high enough and the fertiliser is cost effective we will increase rates ?
I sold 2023 crop last week for £308/t so that will cover costs on some of it. Only 5 loads sold at that though.

What's to go on grass to make silage and grazings a different story.
 

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